Hi All, I'm still getting reacquainted with Pox 2017, having been absent since 2010. SL was, and still is, my favorite faction and I've been playing the campaigns with my old SL decks. I'd like to start augmenting my decks with newer runes but am unsure where to start. I play both Drak and Skeez decks, and even the occasional mixed SL/dragon deck. I have a sizable collection of runes up to Rise of Serkan. I'm looking for suggestions for SL runes I should consider acquiring from later expansions. I realize that is a tall order with approx. 20 expansions newer than Serkan. Nonetheless, I'm sure there are a few champs/spells/relics, etc, that merit acquiring before others. I'm familiar with trading and am aware of PoxBox, so between trading and the Forge I should be all set to start building a more modern collection. But I just don't know where to begin. Any advice much appreciated. Cheers!
The following is my own opinion, not a consensus list by any means. High priority (will find their way into all but the most dedicated theme decks): Snogvie (1x) Skywing Imperators Vindrax Versatile champs: Valdaci Shieldwarden Skeezick Vanguard Locust Akakios (1x) Skywing Sonicbolt Dreadnought (1x) Draksar Ravenspeaker (* this is a tech choice that you may or may not add to your decks depending on how much of a problem summons are for you) Draksar Shifter --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prioritize this next group according to specific themes you like If you want to play goodstuff decks: Primordial Enigma Farcrags Sandkip If you want to play draksar: Blackscale Centurion Judge Torien Flagellum of Chains Draksar High Priest If you want to play skeezick: 1x Totem of the Fallen All other skeezick (except for Vanguard, above) are solid but easily replaced with C/UC/R champs that are basically equivalent. If you want to play dragons: Valdac Prismatic Skywing If you want to play kanen: Bloodhowler Alpha (1x) Kiergana (1x) If you want to play myx: All myx champs (except adamant) are roughly the same priority and none of them will see play outside of myx decks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anything not in the above or below lists probably clocks in around here -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Really niche champs: Valdaci Guardian Mutated Drake Dragon Engine (1x) Myx Adamant Homicidal Thug Don't bother: Vex Tainted Vinecreeper
Welcome back man, I''ve been playing SL at that mid level for quite a while off and on since Rebellion and recently had a lot of fun on the high-ish ladder with Skeezick and Meta SL so I can give some pointers on the most important stuff (going expansion by expansion so probably gonna be a long post wooops). Draksar: 2x Channelled Violence 1-2x Draksar Psion 1x Temple Guard 1x Judge Torien 1-2x Draksar Persecutor 2x Blackscale Centurion 2x Flagellum of Chains 1-2x Draksar Pursuer 1-2x Valdaci Bolter Skeezick: 2x Resilient Skeezick 1x Totem of the Fallen 1x Skeezick Trigger 2x Skeezick Whorl Meta Stuff: 1x Akakios 2x Spark Crone 2x Skywing Imperator 2x Dunes Manticore 1-2x Farcrags Tardigrade 1-2x Primordial Enigma 2x Skeezick Whorl Utility for every bg: 1x Hive 1x Ferocity of Kain Taris 1x Cancel Magic 1x Draksar Legionnaire 1x Snogvie the Antbear 1x Purge 1-2x Quicken 1x Dragonfear 1x Reforge 1-2x Skeezick Vanguard 1x Valdaci Shieldwarden* 1x Phalanx Marker *(Could do the Madness in the Mountains campaign on legendary to unlock Commander Nisk instead) edit: damn davre is faster than me edit edit: this list is assuming you have all the SL stuff from Rise and prior so broken stuff like Vindrax is excluded
Worth mentioning that Draksar High Priest is nice in draksar for Sermon but Wyrmpriest does the same for the same price with a slightly different kit and an uncommon rarity as opposed to legendary.
Also dragons are a pretty damn strong theme if you are into that kind of thing. You'd want: 1x Akakios 2x Skywing Imperator 2x Prismatic Skywing 1-2x Guardian of Eretat 2x Skywing Acidcraw 2x Skywing Agitator 2x Vexian Neodrak 1-2x Skywing Sonicbolt 1-2x Skywing Screecher If you want the initiative plan also: 2x Skywing Patrol 2x Skywing Rumbler
Thanks for all the feedback, now time to forge and trade. Assume value stuff is better to acquire by forge than trade especially C-U-R. Several of those LEGs are high on my want list; I just need to decide what to get rid of to acquire them. I do have a couple Giving Trees I could part with. It's always difficult to get rid of anything if I don't have multiples, even for stuff I never play. Besides the Giving Trees, I do have several Angels, one for most every faction and two Angel of War. Not sure if it's worth keeping both Angel of War but I do so because she's been one of my favorite champions for a while. What is broken about Vindrax? I have two EXO Vindrax. Any difference between the EXO Vindrax and the various Limited versions, beside cosmetics?
If you trade away a giving tree, you probably won't be able to get one again. The same is true of many limited runes. If you do decide to trade one, I recommend that you post in the trade forum and spend a few days getting the best offer. I have a complete set of SL other than limiteds, so I am definitely interested in any limited SL you have. As for the Vindrax variants, it's all cosmetic.
I've been reading about LEs all afternoon, trying to decide whether to trade or hold the few that I have. I'm hesitant to trade the Giving Trees I have for the simple fact that they don't have non-LE equivalents. However, I'm trying to justify whether it's worth holding onto a LE J. Extinguisher or LE Bogghopper Toad when I can trade those runes for their non-LE equivalents and use the profits to acquire quite a few other useful runes. I personally have no attachment to an LE rune simply for the different skin. None. So long as their is no difference in play value, I'm quite content to offload an LE to a collector and use the proceeds to catch up on runes I need. As for SL, the only LE I have that I'm willing to trade is 2x Draksar Sandstalker. I also have 2x LE Angel of War, but that may be the only LE I'm REALLY attached to. Give it some time and I might let them go for Legendary equivalents.
I think I'd recommend farming gold, buying an extended set box, and sharding stuff through the forger to craft most of what you need vs. getting rid of your LEs. You can build a solid skeezick BG with no Legendaries and then slowly add in LEGs as you acquire gold and runes. That'll give you time to relearn the game and try stuff out also. A lot has changed. You don't need to try and build something that's instantly top tier meta competitive right away.
I have the Sandstalker and the Angel. If there are any runes you want to test, let me know. Just promise me that if you decide to trade a tree that you'll let me know so I can make an offer too.
It's just a really really good champion that can work in any bg, not many factions even have a ~100 nora damage tank. Valdac is also a good dragon god if you feel like you need the Cleansing Aura and/or Augment Creation. Poor poor Vex. Realistically you'll never want to run 2 Angels in a single bg buuuut it's limited so idk, I'd keep.