From what I see so far, and what I recall from the last game, veterans seem to target new players for the first couple votes, not out of allegiance to each other, but because new players are an unknown. That suggests to me that new players would need to work together to defend themselves.
I'd also like to suggest that neither Pede nor Q could both be Maf after the above conversation and thus forcing the vote onto one of them would open up some more communication. Also I don't feel the need to join with other newbies to defend myself, I mean those other newbies could be maf and would thus damn me by association or force me into routes I don't feel like taking. Just because an individual is new is not necessarily a reason for me to trust them.
at our current pace someone will be lynched so either someone unvote darklord or everyone unvote sorry i havent been contributing much but i have been reading this thread
That's why I haven't voted yet, I had considered voting for Pedeguerra, but that would have been a knee jerk defensive move to keep the vote tied at two each.
Wait, this is my fault, I skipped molosse's vote, the vote was already tied. I will UNVOTE: Darklord48
You are all being newbs again. I wont defend myself from bad moves. Do as you please. My vote remains.
I still hold that the lack of communication between Gab/Ped can give us something to work on when establishing maf connections no?
why the actual Firk would you want to tie the vote. why. alright, just based on the past couple pages... molo is holding just below neutral gabq, pedebro, qucas, and kingjad all seem decent enough options for a first day lynch darklord is holding around neutral due largely to lack of content- so long as he doesn't continue on that way it should be fine guys, unless you all received some information i didn't, you need to remember that the hammer only comes down when you have a majority of the group voting for someone. that's the only way to cut short a day phase, so far as i know. one person is pretty ****in far from a majority. voting against it to tie it of all things is just Firking ridiculous. there is still time to deal with it, and *even if there wasn't* it's still better to lynch d1 than not to does. this. make. sense.
having said all that, the person the first vote was on is pedeg. the person who decided to tie the vote is gabq (and then pedeg went on to get the vote further away from him, which is not necessarily scummy. i disagree with his reasoning, but whatcha gonna do about that) i don't actually think this means anything, but it might be worth remembering at least.
Well played dagdabro. My intention was to move the vote away from me, since Im a townie and all - I may have misinterpreted what Gabriel meant, but that doesnt take away the fact voting for me would only benefit mafia. Let's see how this turns out.
Don't want to get called out for inactivity, I just don't have much to add at this point. Also, my alerts don't update right for some reason so I didn't realize this thread was moving so much. Duly noted.
My reasoning to want to tie the vote was that I went to sleep and I woke up and I didn't had a notification of activity in the thread, so I was worried that the day would go off and the lynch would be achieved with only one "poke" vote (as I said, I missed the vote on pede) and I wanted to get some more discussion on the table.
@molo on why you don't want to tie the vote, i think i covered that in the post you quoted about the bit that pertains to you ("just below neutral"), that's me saying i'm reading your stuff and it's coming off as slightly scummy. not big enough to cause any alarms yet, but more so than some others.
My reasoning was the guy saying he was at the hospital after his child was born - I doubt he would have time these next few days to log on, much less play a mafia game. Now he comes in and says his level of activity wont be a problem. I dont know, seems weird to me.