Hotfix by Alkaline

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by alkaline89, Jan 12, 2015.

  1. alkaline89

    alkaline89 The King of Potatoes

    Still some blind ppl here so gonna tell you what to do.

    Lance Admiral +5 nora
    Klub devourer +5
    Elven strageist +5
    Falconer +5
    Unholy tomb +5/10
    Doom +5/10
    Domination +5
    Scorched Dwarf +10
    Gnarlwood Lifegiver +5/10
    Deep elf priest +5 relocate ally coldown 2?
    VERTICAL PUSH +10 why this spell wasnt nerfed i dunno
    Grintmaw bouncer +5
    Dwarven Tinkerer +5
    Elven Bard +5
    Fist of bastion +5
    Death Guard +10,15
    Aflicted Corpse +5,10
    ^ this is what should be done long time ago but it was only 5 min for me . gg owned.

    forgot about
    Hydraxor +10/15 nora
    Some fs naabz gonna post later if u want
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2015
  2. Thbigchief

    Thbigchief I need me some PIE!

    + 1 dam +5hp t00?
     
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  3. alkaline89

    alkaline89 The King of Potatoes

    yes +100 damage and +100 hp no its only increased nora cost in less than 5 min
     
  4. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

    I vote Alkaline for Council 2015.
     
  5. D4rkSteel

    D4rkSteel I need me some PIE!

    Let's nerf FW, great idea
     
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  6. JazzMan1221

    JazzMan1221 Better-Known Member

    I knew there was a reason I didn't have you on ignore. Haven't laughed so hard all day; nice work.
     
  7. Jib

    Jib Better-Known Member

    Healing Tree made a comeback?
     
  8. ChiaoLung

    ChiaoLung I need me some PIE!

    Nope...and he somehow missed AA too.
     
  9. Vorian

    Vorian I need me some PIE!

    This list is bs because it doesnt have AA.
     
  10. MEATMAN

    MEATMAN Forum Royalty

    +5/10 nora fixes everything wrong in this game!
     
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  11. Authyrtyr

    Authyrtyr The King of Potatoes

    Well, all his changes are manual nora hikes. The solution to AA imho isn't a nora hike but a change in what he actually does. DOG has tried this a few times but still hasn't quite pulled it off right.
     
  12. Lushiris

    Lushiris I need me some PIE!

    My most basic instincts are telling me not to, but I'll be nice and explain it to you(because I believe it will help more people understand as well):

    Increasing nora costs is a terrible way of trying to fix runes.

    If you increase the cost of an overpowered rune, you'll make people want to play it less, maybe some even will keep trying, but probably nobody will - instant shoebox. It's not a theory, it has happened multiple times over this game's history.

    Then after sometime if you reduce its cost again without properly fixing it, there you go OP again(also happened).

    So, what we should do is adjust champions and other runes so that their role becomes clearly reasonable according to a specific vision of balance. You can do that through changing abilities, effects, and whatever else the rune does. It's not rocket science, but it's better than banging the head against a wall changing nora costs.
     
  13. DarkJello

    DarkJello I need me some PIE!

    A small bump up in cost seems a lot easier than changing stats and abilities. Improved balance is the goal. Stuff gonna be shoeboxed from time to time. Evolution and such, as the only constant is change. Debating the correct bump up/down in cost of champs and/or abilities is reasonable, just remember that 0-4 are options too.
     
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  14. JaceDragon

    JaceDragon I need me some PIE!

    +5 nora = fixed
     
  15. Pixyrus

    Pixyrus Forum Royalty

    Lead Designer pl0x?
     
  16. chickenpox2

    chickenpox2 I need me some PIE!

    how does +10 nora fix UT? Its already expensive
     
  17. OriginalG1

    OriginalG1 I need me some PIE!

    to balance Elven strategist give him pull instead of relocate enemy.
     
  18. MovnTarget

    MovnTarget Forum Royalty

    Lack of SL nerfs is disconcerting.
     
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  19. alkaline89

    alkaline89 The King of Potatoes

    nope sorry mate but lets agree to disagree
    this should be made as simple as this
    hehe good now u know what to do
    5/10 from mrbad was pretty good and it was 5 min nerf

    just one more thing from me
    lets be honest here
    why its so hard to fix smthg because u guys dont understand that if u will change abiltiies and Bane Shift hp everything it will take 20 years or more for them, they should just simply increase nora cost as fast as possbile but yeah u can debate 20 years and dont see obv
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2015
  20. Netherzen

    Netherzen I need me some PIE!

    There should be a special section of the forum for intelligent threads like this.
     

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