Let's have a discussion about our heroes

Discussion in 'Forsaken Wastes' started by claydude5, Mar 4, 2015.

  1. claydude5

    claydude5 The King of Potatoes

    Serkan, Lich Master
    Undead/Lich/Wizard
    90-101 nora

    12/6/5-7/2/52

    Boon, Cripple, Draining Aura, Hero, Teleport2 on base.

    U1: Weary/Defensive Strike/Life Siphon



    U2: Frost Cone 1/2/3



    Xulos, Undead Sage
    Undead/Skeleton/Wizard
    98-106 Nora

    11/6/2-5/1/48

    Bloodless,Boon, Death Touch, Hero, Mindwipe2 on base.

    U1: Grace 1/2
    U2: Dark Favor 1/2/3


    Moragen the Free Loss

    Undead/Zombie/Bard

    93-100 Nora

    10/6/1-4/1/48

    Battle Hymn, Boon, Deafening Aura,Hero, Siren's Song on base.

    U1: Absorb/Horrific Aura
    U2: Demoralizing Descant/Hex3/Dread


    What is everyone's opinion of each? How would you change them? How would you compare them to other heroes?

     
  2. Djangoguy

    Djangoguy The King of Potatoes

    Xulos need more synergy with skeletons, Moragen as a Witch and Serkan without draining aura and Chain Lightning instead of Frost Cone.

    When I go to home I will post my suggested changes/stats.
     
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2015
  3. yobanchi

    yobanchi I need me some PIE!

    Serkan could use some streamlining.

    U1: Weary, Cripple, Debilitate
    U2: Draining Aura, Life Siphon, Defensive strike

    Base: Attack Electricity, Teleport 1, Boon, Hero
    Spd +1

    Boom 6 abilities instead of 8.
     
  4. yobanchi

    yobanchi I need me some PIE!

    Moragen streamlining as well.

    U1: depression, Horrific Aura rank 1, Dread
    U2: Demoralizing Descant, Battle Hymn, Deafening Aura
    Base: Attack: Sonic, Ethereal, boon, hero

    Boom 6 abilities instead of 8
     
  5. yobanchi

    yobanchi I need me some PIE!

    Xulos
    U1: Death Touch, Doom, Mindwipe Aura
    U2: Dark Favor 1, 2, 3
    Base- Attack: Psychic, Bloodless, Boon, Hero

    Boom 6 abilities instead of 8
     
  6. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    There will be a game-wide Hero update at some point, so this thread will be useful then.

    Note also that with the Hero update we need to decide what to do with the Hero and Split Hero abilities, both of which give large nora discounts.
     
  7. KPIC

    KPIC Devotee of the Blood Owl

    Mairdreth should be zombie hero, and Morgen should be a witch hero with Curse.
     
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  8. Ujelly

    Ujelly I need me some PIE!

    Badass lol
     
  9. Djangoguy

    Djangoguy The King of Potatoes

    Hi,


    Moragen the Instaloss
    Race: Undead, Zombie Class: Witch
    Nora Cost: 90

    Champion Stats
    DAM: 10, SPD: 6, RNG: 1-4, DEF: 1, HP: 48

    Champion Abilities
    Attack: Sonic
    Deafening Aura
    Fascinate
    Screech
    Boon of the Undead
    Hero

    Upgrade Ability Set #1
    Horrific Aura
    Dread *base*
    Fear rank 1


    Upgrade Ability Set #2
    Zombie Herder
    Hex rank 2 *base*
    Pain Curse

    Making Moragen an witch opens the possibility for another Pain Curse champion on the field, plus Fascinate + Deafening Aura works like detection, as witches lacks it.
    I choose Zombie Herder for a more "support" Moragen on zombies, as the only source of it is Fleshweaver.


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    Xulos, the Undead Sage
    Race: Undead, Skeleton Class: Wizard
    Nora Cost: 77

    Champion Stats
    DAM: 11, SPD: 6, RNG: 4-5, DEF: 1, HP: 48

    Champion Abilities
    Attack: Psychic
    Death Pact
    Drain rank 2
    Bloodless
    Boon of the Undead
    Hero

    Upgrade Ability Set #1
    Grace of the Dead rank 1
    Grace of the Dead rank 2
    Commander: Skeleton *base*

    Upgrade Ability Set #2
    Dark Favor rank 2
    Dark Favor rank 3
    Motivate *base*

    A more skeleton centered Xulos by default, he can be played as he is now, choosing Dark Favor and Grace of the Dead on upgrades, yea, without Mindwipe Aura.


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    Serkan, Lich Master
    Race: Undead, Lich Class: Wizard
    Nora Cost: 93

    Champion Stats
    DAM: 11, SPD: 7, RNG: 6-7, DEF: 2, HP: 48

    Champion Abilities
    Attack: Electricity
    Teleport rank 1
    Chain Lightning
    Life Siphon
    Boon of the Undead
    Hero

    Upgrade Ability Set #1
    Weary
    Cripple *base*
    Debilitate

    Upgrade Ability Set #2
    Surge: Spirit rank 1
    Surge: Lich rank 1 *base*
    Surge: Skeleton rank 1

    A font of damage for any bg, thanks to Surge, Serkan needs the 7 speed for the plays with Teleport on the field.
    How do you feel about my suggestions?
     
  10. D4rkSteel

    D4rkSteel I need me some PIE!

    Dont infect precious moragen with class: witch. Make her a spirit and sarinda could be the witch hero imo. Anyway we widely discussed this in an earlier thread.
     
  11. Uruboz

    Uruboz I need me some PIE!

    Copy pasterino with my opinion (dont know the ability cost so I skip the total nora's hero cost):

    Moragen the Lost
    Race: Undead, Zombie Class: Bard

    Champion Stats
    DAM: 10, SPD: 6, RNG: 1-4, DEF: 1, HP: 48

    Champion Abilities
    Attack: Sonic
    Absorb
    Siren's Song
    Battle Hymn
    Boon of the Undead
    Hero

    Upgrade Ability Set #1
    Horrific Aura 3
    Deafening Aura *base*
    Frightful Aura 3


    Upgrade Ability Set #2
    Dread
    Demoralizing Descant *base*
    Hex 3

    We need a moragen to be good moving forces again.


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    Xulos, the Undead Sage
    Race: Undead, Skeleton Class: Wizard

    Champion Stats
    DAM: 11, SPD: 6, RNG: 4-5, DEF: 1, HP: 48

    Champion Abilities
    Attack: Psychic
    Death Pact
    Mindwipe Aura 2
    Bloodless
    Boon of the Undead
    Hero

    Upgrade Ability Set #1
    Grace of the Dead rank 1
    Grace of the Dead rank 2 *base*
    Balance 3

    Upgrade Ability Set #2
    Dark Favor rank 2 *base*
    Dark Favor rank 3
    Commader: Skeleton

    Commander Xulos on Skeleton BG (to make skeletons BG competitive) and a Xulos spendable setup with the classic utility on deploy (so it is known).


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    Serkan, Lich Master
    Race: Undead, Lich, Demi-God Class: Wizard

    Champion Stats
    DAM: 11, SPD: 7, RNG: 6-7, DEF: 2, HP: 48

    Champion Abilities
    Attack: Electricity
    Teleport 2
    Cripple
    Life Siphon
    Boon of the Undead
    Hero

    Upgrade Ability Set #1
    Weary *base*
    Jolt 3
    Debilitate

    Upgrade Ability Set #2
    Frost Cone 3
    Chain Lighting
    Defensive Strike *base*

    Yeah Demi-god race! hes the truth Lich King!!
     
  12. jigz2009

    jigz2009 The King of Potatoes

    Is Sarinda a Hero witch?
     
  13. D4rkSteel

    D4rkSteel I need me some PIE!

    No, but maybe in the future
     
  14. voodoov

    voodoov I need me some PIE!

    Iam not sure if its a good idea to wait any longer... i mean close to every faction has at least 2 "op" heroes on the field. 20dmg 8 def, or other crazy shiat.
    Our clostest option is doom and shank stuff. Thats not even fun to play (after doing it one/twice ;) ), beside needs no positioning at all.
    And so the nerf calls begin. Starting with us having no competitive heroes/exos able to go toe to toe with those mosters.

    Am i wrong?

    Id say stop nerfing (thinking about) our anti disposal, start giving us viable heroes to play with. Or both.
    Yobanshis ideas are great.
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2015
  15. ghklf

    ghklf I need me some PIE!

    She is a zombie.....
     
  16. ghklf

    ghklf I need me some PIE!

    I want unique skill on them, like Siren's Song.
     
  17. ghklf

    ghklf I need me some PIE!

    How about Vampyre ,Spirit and Worm?
     
  18. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    its funny. fw has been the worst faction since I came back to the game in semptember and has gotten pretty much nothing out of the patches since then.(except nerfs) Lol.
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2015
  19. Ujelly

    Ujelly I need me some PIE!

    Well why do people hate so hard on fw is what I wanna know?
     
  20. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    fw is terrible, the devs hate this faction. you cant even call those 3 hero. Hero are better than a regular deploy not worse.
     

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