Discussion: The Ronin Midterm Patch Notes

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Senshu, Mar 3, 2015.

  1. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    I don't know, a lot of meta bgs are really strong but UD damage is not free damage, that is their faction bonus. Owl raider cone and red/blue fist free attacks don't add much to their nora cost but give them a lot more damage.
     
  2. Fikule

    Fikule I need me some PIE!

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    Personally I think he just uses too much lipstick.
     
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  3. Radioactiverob

    Radioactiverob New Member

    Gravitone: Lost font defenter. Why so fast? we barely got a chance to play with it. Was a fun guy with this -Sad change

    Crusader: Why remove Battle Leader? Thats what made him cool for those of us with limited collections (no angels). Now hes just automatically worse then te angel.
     
  4. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    crusaders base dmg is too low and I am not sure melee specialist is even good for its nora cost. battle leader was cool but made him really expensive and its kinda dumb on a champ with such low damage.

    font defender is dumb, I think they are trying to remove it from the game, it is too powerful in certain situations and leads to draw/map wins.
     
  5. JaceDragon

    JaceDragon I need me some PIE!

    As far as i remember the only three champ with font defender was stalwart defender, Leoss sentinel, and the lonx. I'v seen these three champs maybe 4 times in all my pox life.
     
  6. Uruboz

    Uruboz I need me some PIE!

    Stalwart Defender was played long ago I remeber that
     
  7. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    I think they are trying to remove font defender from the game.
     
  8. JaceDragon

    JaceDragon I need me some PIE!

    They already removed font defender from the game :D
     
  9. Radioactiverob

    Radioactiverob New Member

    I wonder why the had it in the Gravitone which is new only to decide to remove the ability completely from the game by the midterm. Was it really that strong forcing draws like MW24 said? what were those situations? Just curious.

    I felt the crusader had character with battle leader - like you posted hes kind of weak in terms of power but if you overcome that he pays some dividends now hes seems like he has no real potential. Does anyone use him effectivly now? Or have an idea how to? I just like the card a lot. Maybe Im too attached!

    I really like the Etherial Enchantress with the extra speed now. So thats good. Seems she can do haste + 1 extra thing evey turn. Is she effective in the upper echelon decks?
     
  10. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    Auxilium map, IS goes first, deploys gravitone with font defender.

    At turn 1, the battle for mid font is already lost in favor of gravitone.

    KF hills or whatever that map is called, same story.

    Edit: Any map with a middle font.
     
  11. doubtofbuddha

    doubtofbuddha I need me some PIE!

    Font defender is no longer in the game.
     
  12. badgerale

    badgerale Warchief of Wrath

    I feel like losing font defender all together is a shame, though possibly understandable given limited resources.

    This may seem strange since I am probably the biggest pusher for streamlining and consolidation, and generally reducing the number of abilities in the game

    BUT, I think this reduction in abilities should be focused on things that are low impact, or which overlap in effect with other abilities.

    Font defender was a strong and unique ability which certainly added a strategic dimension to the game.

    I can absolutely understand that it was problematic to balance, but there are ways to reintroduce it to work in a balanced way. If it was an activated ability with a high ap cost it would prevent font grabbing and mean you actually need to secure a font.
     
  13. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    he coulda just made it an active ability with a cd but I don't mind it being gone.
     
  14. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    I agree with the premise, but disagree that the specific ability in question added to the strategic dimension. It either works, or it doesn't, and offers very little response or counterpart. Additionally, it is generally much stronger for Player 1 than for Player 2, which is randomly determined.
     
  15. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    As for making it active, we already have Secure Fonts and Change of Plans that fill that particular niche, plus other abilities that trigger on entering deployment zones (or even just movement), etc.
     
  16. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    yea. I think secure font and change of plans need cost reductions though.
     
  17. badgerale

    badgerale Warchief of Wrath

    Yeah, I agree with you if you take the ability as it is now, but think it becoming an activated one (at 5 AP or something high) would solve a lot of that issue and leave it something which adds another dimension to the game.

    I take your point that there is secure fonts and change of plans out there, but I think there is a big enough difference to how they function that it justifies font defender existing. Add to that the other two abilities are pretty rare.

    Anyway, reworking it is an option for the future I guess.
     

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