Quitting till next expansion comes out/client gets fixed

Is that what you got from this? Perhaps I should try to rephrase what I've said above. OFCOURSE I know that the top players don't only play the top BGs. Also depends on you definition of top players and top BGs but sure. I maintain to get top 50 you can play whatever you want. I don't believe this is the definition of top player. Even when I did play months ago, I could cruise the top 20-30 playing Sallys, Snaps etc. Tier 2 BGs.

If you want to win more, you could always simply play a better BG. I know first hand because I've played the bad BGs, seen my rank go down, and then played good ones and witnessed my rank go back up again. Amazing stuff. Now from what I gather from the top 10, very few of them are playing anything other than a tier 1 BG. I'm not even sure any of them could maintain their ranks if they weren't playing tier 1 BGs. I feel like I could extend this to the top 20 but not much further.

A lot of them have made it very clear that they would rather not play x because why would they, it would only hurt their chance of winning. Could you try point me to someone who is going for rank that isn't playing a BG they thought could help them in this goal.

Relating this to above why would any of them play something like spiders when they could just play minos and have an EASIER time getting a high rank. Sure they could probably play spiders with a lot of success but why not save yourself the trouble and play a better BG. To go alongside this I don't remember the last time I witnessed someone in the top 50 playing something that isn't tier 1 for more than a few games. Could you give me some examples? If they did I doubt they would stay top 50 for long.

 

I think it's probably better to listen to the players of the game and act upon our complaints rather than make comments that insinuate that we are completely wrong but hey... what would i know about the game and its runes, I've only played for 10 years and battered the current meta bg's to death for over a year.

And sorry Xazn I'm sure once some life returns to this game via a decent client/expansion i'll be back on again to say "Hey Hey"

 

Everyone should just play FW meta. Problem sorted.

 

Top dogs are turned off by the client so now it's noobs whining about noob stompers. L2analyze

 

yeah, being the community quite small but passionate, the emotional factor in choosing which bg to play is really stronger than in other games.
Even tiny admitted he sometimes plays bgs to have fun and sometimes to rank. (btw he wins with both). You, diabloz, also play 99%FS, and im sure you would play fs even if it got nerfed to only have tier2 bgs. Markoth same with IS, dolce same with SL , etherielin and gemma with KF, etc...

 

The reason that descussions happen like this is because hardly anyone plays the game. The meta would be more completely known if you had 20 strong players in each faction and 100's of less strong players in each faction playing at one time. Instead, you have to wait for strong players to return from hatius to create good decks or find synergy/efficiency where others cannot, or strong players that are playing to get tired of what they are playing and make a new deck.

The time it takes to illuminate these "top decks" has only to do with population and you should not insinuate that they people are just "lol you can't be pleased" simply because two weeks ago the discussion was different.

You should know this. You are the developer of this game. Where this game stands is a direct result of your vision and efforts. Do better.

 

Who is diabolizer, goldtiger???

 

No, he's diabloziii or something else

Also my point was pretty much what baskit got at, there is no real static meta due to the small playerbase.

 

goldtiger is diabloz

 

Ahhh, thought you meant diabolizer. Was going to be super pumped and then pissed that he never said hi

 

even if this game had 50 top players and 500 other players for faction, the meta would still be different from modern games because of the emotional attachment to the faction / unit you like the most. this is a game that requires much more time and mind than games like hs, duelyst, gwent etc so its normal you develop some choices "made by heart". also because this games rewards more original deckbuilding if coupled with skill.

 

Yeah, that's actually why I dislike split runes. When they are so good, then they show up twice as much.

 

It makes it into every deck i split fs, i woukd split kf if splitting kf didn't suck so much

 

Unfortunately I'm not the true diaboliz3r

 

The irony is hilarious.

I agree with this. One of the major downfalls of this game is that a large portion (perhaps the largest portion of the playerbase) does not understand how to evaluate rune power. For YEARS, people who would be hard stuck bronze 5 have had a say in regards to balance issues. About 2-3 years ago there were maybe 20 players who I would say knew enough about the game to comment on balance. Now, maybe 3? 4? Even when I was on the council, I was blown away about how effective and influential bad players were on the state of the game. So most of us in the old guard resigned. Now it's gold level players who think they are great because they beat bronze players everyday and runes are somehow balanced around that dynamic.

Before the new client, I would log on, play a few games vs. randoms and have Tiny message me about playing. There was/is no one else to play. I've seen a few old players hop on occasionally but when there are less than 10 good players in the game it's really hard to manage balance. Because of this, I really sympathize with Sok. It's nigh impossible to balance things correctly when no one knows what they're doing.

 

I play 9 hours a day on alts, just like sok.

 

I keep Pox installed to suck out the nostalgia of back in the old days(2009 era) and how things use to be. It was a giant cluster Firk of broken but it was fun broken. Now I just see Pox as an ex-gf who lives next door and reminds me how good the sex use to be. I sigh, log onto the new gf(some stupid Firking game) and am sadly disappointed at how my life turned out. I will continue to support this game mentally and physically if I can, but I can't log on anymore due to how it just rips a bit of my soul out. Lot of good friends made on this game, lot of good times laughing it up with them.

People always say what they would do with a time machine. Besides going back and seeing all my favorite bands in their prime, I'd go back and enjoy this game again. I miss you Sabri-umm Poxnora.

As a wise man once said,
"Everybody knows things are bad, It's a depression.
Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job.
The dollar buys a nickel's worth...
banks are going bust...
shop-keepers keep a gun under the counter...
punks are running wild on the street and there's nobody anywhere that seems to know what to do.
And there's no end to it.

We know the air is unfit to breathe,
our food is unfit to eat...
we sit watching our T.V.s while some local newscaster tells us
that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three violent crimes --
as if that's the way it's supposed to be!

We know things are bad; worse than bad.
They're crazy!
It's like everything, everywhere is going crazy.
So, we don't go out anymore;
we sit in the house and slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller and we say:
Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms, let me have my toaster and my T.V.
and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything - just leave us alone.

But I'm not gonna leave you alone...
I want you to get mad!

I don't want you to protest and I don't want you to riot or write your Congressman,
because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write.
I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians or the crime in the street.
All I know is that first you've got to get mad... you've got to say: I'm a human being,
god dammit it, my life has value!

I want you to get up now,
I want all of you to get up out of your chairs.
I want you to get up, right now, and go to the window,
open it and stick your head out and yell:

I'M AS MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

I'll see you Pox People all in Hell one day. Adios.

 

Kurt Cobain is that you?