Pox Nora Revamp - Preview 5

you get it.. from the first time I've said it?

And I think he's fine at his nora cost, but not with the grant: aura. all the other stuff seems fine to me. But if he's low cost because he doesn't do damage, don't give him excellent AoE damage.

 

Could some of the great utility Runes, which greatly reduce randomness at the expense of some Nora, like Clairvoyance, Demon Call or Summon Dragon, gain Preordained, just like the Obelisk of Foresight?

 

Now that you ask, no, they can't.

 

My suggestions are like inverse self-fulfilling prophecies.

 

there are some people that you just can't give what they want.

 

Now that we have discussed that, let me happily announce that I can be bribed into proposing buffs for the faction you hate most!

 

Well, this preview was interesting...mostly because Tinkerer is the lulz.
But I'm sure phase 4 of the revamp will handle that...right? *eye twitch*

P.S. This was a slight crack in my posting self-control. I will now go back to reserving judgement until after the revamp is out

 

Good work guys take your time.

 

Sorry Pede, but I will have to say again that I dislike when people don't know what they are talking about. sassquatch is the only player on this thread that mentioned that this ability already existed on a champ - KF Angel. And no one takes it on her, preferring Abash or Entangling Attack instead. It's also not strictly better due to CD and AP.

Ok, now that's out of the way, I understand the concern with the ability and hope it is not on any already good units. I cannot agree with complaints against Elven Treecaller due to the fact that it's not being run even after its last buff. Ripples will be an interesting interaction, so I think you are right to say we have to wait until we can play with it.

I also disagree with you saying Enforcer is 2x auto. But what do I know about KF

 

So the champions in constructed battlegroups in training ground all come with the basic upgrade I suppose

 

Shame, would of been fun to see dwarfs/constructs with class barbarian adding their racial style to the "class".

 

I would like to propose a buff to the Sundered Lands faction.

There are more sub-themes in SL than in any other faction, without much
interaction between them. Especially the Myx feel a little out of touch with the rest of the themes.
Correct me, if I am wrong on this. It would be nice if we could either get a reveal engine for each of those themes, i.e. preordained spells for each theme that let you reveal a number of Myx or Skeezick, or if we could improve the theme interactions.

 

I'm not sure how well you know pricing, but certain points make a world of difference.

75 is far better than 76, more so than 74 is to 75. This is because going first in the first 2 turns you have 150 nora - meaning 2x 75 champs.

For FS 63 and under is a magic number as well, as it allows for you to drop a champion each turn when on one font (45 + 12 + 6) or to drop a champ and Nora Drain on turn one (speaking of which, that should be fixed - aka removed - as it really is just luck winning).

Tempo is so big in this game, because resources depend on map positioning, so gaining the upper hand on the map through tempo translates into not just big resource gains, but reductions for your opponent.

 

Myx seem like a nice joint theme with sand honestly. When I run them, I am usually including a fair number of sand related runes as well - so maybe it would be good if there was a future convergence here?

 

This 100%.

 

Gedden has commented that he is fully aware of the "75 nora sweet spot" to use his own words.

 

While the atk and def system was very clumsy, the lower speed across the board was very beneficial to the game. There was a huge difference between fast units and slow ones, because of lower ap gains, and playing attrition FW or IS (with heals) was very different to playing vs SPmoga or brute force UD. It feels like most factions play similarly to how UD/KF used to play before.

 

Here, here!