Black Lives Matter are defending murderers and drug dealers.

that's a ridiculous statement and makes you look very ignorant.

criticizing people is not racist... stereotyping people as loud black people is...

 

pretty sure that your stumbling block here is how frequently you say people are racist (or some variant thereof) without actually saying anything else.

it's possible that you're right, but it's on you to show us. if you don't then all you are doing is creating useless noise (not that you're by any means alone in that, but we're focusing on you right now). and the issue i have right here is that you're not actually saying things except "you shouldn't be saying that", which is nearly completely useless as a standalone statement.


start with what you think racism is. don't give me a dictionary answer unless you wrote the dictionary. as well as that, assume that the people you're talking to think they're doing what's right- assume that simply by telling them that they're not, bypassing any sort of discussion and jumping straight to "WRONG", that you won't get anywhere because they'll just continue to think what they do.


unless you're content with producing large quantities of useless noise-spam, in which case by all means, continue.

 

what your asking requires more thought and time than i like to put into these conversations. Sometimes I might most of the time i wont.

 

I would think that stopping racism would be worth thought and time.

 

I see the BLM movement in Minnesota as loud criminals. BLM in Minnesota is more than 50% white based on what I've seen on the news and when I've encountered them during their protests. The reason I characterize them as loud criminals is because their protests have been breaking the law. Standing on the tracks blocking the light rail transit system during the Minnesota Twins home opener. Walking on a freeway blocking all lanes of traffic. Camping out in the middle of the street for weeks forcing traffic to route around their encampment. Holding a protest in the Mall of America, which is private property, especially after being told that the mall was private property and the protest was not authorized. While I'm sure that's not all the BLM movement is doing in Minnesota, that is what the general population sees.

 

the media likes to show stuff like that for ratings and if you watch right wing media you are going to see that alot because of politics.(its a left wing group)

I cant really speak on the movement or organization but if you only get your news from the right, it's mostly going to show the negative side and vice versa from the left.

 

Here let Chris Rock explain to all of you what is wrong with BLM movement. Go ahead Mr. Rock tell them. There are good people in the BLM who care, but the rest of these guys...... they do nothing and ruin it.

 

Regardless of your maladjusted angsty teenboi opinion of what I wrote, show me proof that it's incorrect and that I'm therefore righting it for negative effect and am trying to incite racism?

I didn't say the negative thing because it was negative and I do not like people, I said the negative thing because its the truth happen to be negative concerning that point.

 

MW is just a politically correct zombie, don't mind his prattle.

 

being disrespectful and racist has nothing to do with being politically correct, I guess i shouldnt expect anything different from baskitkase tho.

you dont know anything about me so its funny to me that you even make this statement. Ima just assume your crazy like baskitkase and making stuff up in your head.

 

To be deemed "racist" you would have to possess a preconceived notion of a certain race and use negative labels that are associated with the race you are targeting. "Loud black people" is too general to call someone a racist. Considering that you could apply the adjective "loud" to any race and every race has been known to get loud. Loud white, loud latino, loud Asian etc. An obvious case for calling someone a racist would have been if the person stated "all (insert race) are/do this (insert ignorant generalization)". Baskitkase gave an accurate description of what he saw: a large group of people of mostly one ethnicity chaotically running around with signs with no clear purpose except to interrupt traffic, commerce, and be LOUD. BLM is a far cry from civil rights movements of the past which at least had an intelligent spokesperson with credentials who could present a clear case for change. Examples of this: Dr. Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and Huey P. Newton. Bunch of chickens running around with their heads cut off is a better way to describe BLM. Get organized. Get civil. Get a leader.

 

I'd like to think that all lives matter.

I like the way my dad put it," Everybody is a minority of one." You would be surprised how much of this BS we could avoid if everybody started respecting everybody's rights and got off this group rights nonsense.

 

The video presented here is what the media needs to cover and the type of harassment that a competent civil rights leader should be using to signal those in authority that law enforcement in this area needs reform and monitoring. "BLM get organized please and get someone to compile data such as this to strengthen your case for police reform".

 

For the sake of clarification:

It's (BLM) not fighting for rights. It's fighting for the cessation of corruption in certain areas where already existent rights are being illegally impinged upon.

The argument "Everyone else matters too!" is not an argument against minority rights, it's an argument against flipping the table, and discriminating against the "majority" or other minorities, which at least some activists have very much been pushing for.

Pretending problems don't exist won't make them go away, but rioting will cause more problems. Exaggerating the problem (and especially it's cause) will cause more problems.

"White People are to blame" is not an accurate description even if some White people are responsible for certain instances or the institutions of certain policies. Yet that's that many BLM protestors have tried to portray (at least to the Media).

Again, part of that is likely hijacking. Various (self-professed) Communist groups have insinuated themselves into BLM, and George Soros funds a chunk of it, etc. Part of it is probably also media sensationalism (easier to report on a wild or ludicrous event than the many solid, rational events protesting police over-use of violence and/or discrimination).

"All lives matter, so instead of blaming 'White Culture' or whatever lets deal with the real problem..." (Ostensibly the poor Police training and/or oversight.)

That's the argument.

 

Our experiences differ.

It doesn't even suggest that. You infer it.

In terms of that specific "quote" you posted, it can equally "suggest" that everyone else is having the same or similar problem(s).

Besides, much of the "history" of the argument was reactionary. Various people (including mostly Black people) used the phrase "all lives matter" as a supportive statement to the BLM brand... and they got booed or even kicked out for it. It becoming an "argument" against BLM only came about because certain groups of BLM activists actively rejected such statements.