Constructs post-Ronin

Discussion in 'Ironfist Stronghold' started by Gaedel, Jan 20, 2015.

  1. Gaedel

    Gaedel I need me some PIE!

    There were a lot of changes for Constructs, including the new Silverclan Purger.

    • Please post any new battlegroups, including max-budget, low-budget and mid-budget.
    • What are your thoughts of the new Construct?
    • What are your thoughts of the changes of existing Constructs?
    • Did the changes shoebox any?
    • Did the changes make any previously shoeboxed viable?
    • How many Engineers vs Constructs do you recommend?
     
  2. Gwyndionnz

    Gwyndionnz I need me some PIE!

    Looking forward to getting home from work and trying a SP clops/construct deck

    I think as a whole, structs are in a good place post expac

    I usually run 4-5 engineers/tinkerers.
     
  3. Gaedel

    Gaedel I need me some PIE!

    Here are the changes for Constructs:

    New Champions
    Silverclan Purger

    Champion Changes:

    Earth Golem
    Upgrade Set 1: Iron Will, Resistance: Magical 2 (default)
    Defense decrease (-1)

    Groble
    Starting Abilities: Immunity: Fire, Attack: Physical

    Stone Colossus
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Physical, Unstoppable

    Groble Piledriver
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Physical, Fury, Unequippable

    Ironfist Collector
    Upgrade Set 1: Pilfer (default), Snatch, Hunter: Equipped

    Stone Dragon
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Physical, Unstoppable, Warrior Foe

    Earthmover
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Boulder, Create Chasm, Rock Defiance

    Groble Rock Eater
    Starting Abilities: Vulnerability: Magical, Attack: Physical, Unequippable, Rock Eater

    Lodestone Construct
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Physical, Eat Traps, Pilfer
    Upgrade Set 2: Provision (default), Surge: Equipped

    Faultbreaker
    Starting Abilities: Resistance: Physical, Attack: Physical, Tectonic Pulse, Titan, Mountaineer

    Earth Elemental
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Boulder, Trail: Rock, Chasm Walker

    Whitestone Gargoyle
    Starting Abilities: Flight, Attack: Sonic, Statue Form, Inscrutable Form

    War-Enchanted Groble
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Magical, Adaptive: Ironfist

    Clockwork Swarm
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Physical, Numerous, Complex Machine

    Crystal Golem
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Physical, Splintering, Lethargic, Mirrored

    Animated Armor
    Starting Abilities: Immunity: Physical, Attack: Physical

    Magnetic Rover
    Starting Abilities: Magnetic Pulse, Faithless, Helpless

    Dragon Engine
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Fire, Annihilate, Mobilize Engine

    Mechanical Crabs
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Physical, Latch On

    Groble Dervish
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Physical, Whirl of Blades

    Lodestone Armory
    Starting Abilities: Craft, Throw Shield, Surge: Equipped

    Rugolth's Revenge
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Physical, Unstoppable, Lethargic, Stunning

    Silverclan Hoplite
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Magical, Throw Javelin, Complex Machine

    Silverclan Protector
    Starting Abilities: Attack: Magical, Complex Machine, Magic Beam

    Blackstone Gargoyle
    Starting Abilities: Flight, Attack: Sonic, Statue Form, Inscrutable Form
     
  4. Baalzamon

    Baalzamon I need me some PIE!

    What does a good Construct deck look like post Ronin. I started trying to make a construct deck before construct immunities got deleted. I have most of them but I do not know much about playing them. I would like to see some deck examples and some explanations of rune choices. This would be greatly appreciated.
     
  5. Mister Tuggles

    Mister Tuggles I need me some PIE!

    I would still like to see someone construct a decent SP/IS Construct deck. With the new SP runes in Ronin I think it would be fairly entertaining.
     
  6. negatorxx

    negatorxx I need me some PIE!

    So I'm in the process of shelving the is/sp constructs i had together. I just couldnt make it work. Never landed on a solid spell set, and the tinkerers all felt like weak links that didnt bring enough to the table. Might try straight IS constructs though.

    I really, really wanted it to work :( firecases are tons of fun.
     
  7. negatorxx

    negatorxx I need me some PIE!

  8. Rapidice

    Rapidice I need me some PIE!

    My critics to your BG, in particular some runes:

    > Very few ranged, try adding Silverclan Protector/Turret Team/Whitestone Gargoyle. Even Ironfist Glider, Dwarven Catapult and Dwarven Mortar Crew can be run with the apropiate positioning.
    > Lodestone Armory: It can attack only once every 3 turns, unless you run Holy Blade of Valdac. Even when it brings Improve Speed, is just a fat roadblocker with no defensive ability besides Block if you upgrade provision and equip it.
    > Metallic Slag: I have a love/hate relationship with this rune. Fascinate and Hallucinogenic are great, and cause you opponent to position with care. My problem with him is being really squishy and vulnerable to ranged attacks.

    https://poxbase.com/deck/ctgCalcoTC4Bc1tcaxCfhcfgc1Hc3YC8YCwWs4Bsls7ms4Gs7Hs6Ms43rirYe1ve2Ye3ie_

    This is what I'm runnig now. I change it a lot, but the runes I usually try to get in are Refute, another Repair, Bane Blast, Tales of Valor, Dragon Engine, Silverclan Purger.
     
  9. Baskitkase

    Baskitkase Forum Royalty

    Don't use dragon engine. Ever.
     
  10. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    Purger kicks KFs teeth in. If you can get Sarge out you can drive opponents 6 speed units to push them to 7 speed for Hunter.
     
  11. RedScarlet

    RedScarlet I need me some PIE!

    thats why you have to split with SP, calcifying tough 3 metallic slag isn't really squishy at all. and if you're facing grimlic or some kinda heavy ranged dude, just WotM and use that 1 turn gap to hallucino-lock it until it dies. The bad part of metallic slag imo is when both of you turtle around and spam champs and getting into a positioning battle in consecutive turns...this way, hallucinolocking one guy just doesn't cut it.
     
  12. Mister Tuggles

    Mister Tuggles I need me some PIE!


    Do you have a BG you could share on the is/sp construct? Would like to see it.
     
  13. RedScarlet

    RedScarlet I need me some PIE!

    Sry my poxbase doesnt work donno y.

    Sp:
    1 warcart, 2 firecase, 2 artificier, 2 metallic slag, 2 purger (1 w pummel, 1 w charge 3)

    Is:
    2 silvercl protector, 1 blackstn garg, 2 dorf engineer, 1 silvercl tinkerer, 1 clockwork swarm

    And as markoth said, u got Slavers Whilp to take advtg of purger's Hunter...

    Super slow but steamrolls if it does with all the Build em Toughs and free grobles. When ronin came out the BG stands on mid LE-high exo, but now it kinda fell to high rare-mid exo. Too many fast UD BGs
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2015
  14. Mister Tuggles

    Mister Tuggles I need me some PIE!


    Too many fast BGs in general imo. Wish DOG would be able to slow the game down a tad.
     

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