Expansion champs I think need to be buffed

no, I mean the buffs on queen were permanent.

 

Okay i misread your "then" as saying that it was changed to be permanent in design

 

several range units need their nerfs reverted, very few of the ranged units nerfed actually deserved them. Most of the ranged champs nerfed were already mediocre or sucked.

Also alot of the top tier range units werent touched at all, which is odd since they should have been nerfed first.

 

mw24 you do realize all the runes from this expansion are usable and some are borderline op ?

 

This is par for the course with him. He wants Corpse era champs.

 

Were already almost there again lol valdaci bolter, again a situation where multi-attack on a range champ is dumb. We realized this with snaptooths and were gonna go through months of seeing it again with bolter. Pox past is always the future.

 

There are about 12 or so ranged champs with multi attack. There are also equips/spells that give multi attack. About 8-10 of those champs are playable and one of those equips are usable.

Do you think they should be changed?

 

Yes I think all range champs with multi-attack should be changed, we just nerfed range why would we promote giving a champ with 5 range multi attack in a faction with rage band. With every patch were taking 3 steps forward and 6 steps backwards. They did range nerfs across the board, and then produce a ton of ranged champs with the expansion that are all very very strong.

Multi-attack on range will never be okay, if you don't believe me just look in the past at all champs that had it. It just gets frustrating watching the developers make the same mistakes over and over and not even you can tell me it isn't.

 

I just think it's weird he doesn't have Ferren Focus, honestly, same with The Silent Master. At least as Upgrade options.

 

Wait, what?
LOL

 

Neither one really needs it. Silent Master enables it's use and Leaf has No Khan Do and Flanking. It would also be a sandbag in a FS or FS/X bg.

 

Please just leave smoke form as it is, changing its range or removing dissipate might make it not as good. Seriously though I have got smoke form to 9 speed 68 hp and 21 damage b4...

 

I agree somewhat on Silent Master, but not on Leaf on the Wind. As far as sandbags, that's part of why having it as an Upgrade Option would make sense. Besides, Slowing and Sundering is actually useful in FS, even if the Freeze portion doesn't have anything to trigger other abilities like in ST.

Note, I don't think those champions are really bad without it mind, I just think the lack of Ferren Focus is weird.

 

this isnt true at all, you need to build stronger decks and practice more if you want to contribute positively to the balance discussion.

Bolter is one of the few new champs thats well balanced.

 

haha

 

You are right MW24 Goblin King needs upgrades from the next 5 champs, its not like it is the best champ of the expansion or anything lol... Anyway I cant wait to get my hands on a Blast Mage, I have a sneaking suspicion it might be as good as Goblin King...

 

seriously, alot of ranged units are just as good or better than bolter. I could name like 10-20.

 

no it just needs a cost reduction and possibly a redesign. the goblin theme as a whole needs to be reworked.