[Faction] Exploit

Right now we have four Exploit abilities:

Forsaken Exploit (7 Nora)
When this champion makes a successful basic attack against a target with Diseased, Cursed or Hexed it gains 1 AP and has +2 DMG for the attack.

Ironfist Exploit (7 Nora)
When this champion makes a successful basic attack against a target with Stunned, Branded or Fatigued, it gains 1 AP and has +2 DMG for the attack.

Savage Exploit (7 Nora)
When this champion makes a successful basic attack against a target with Frozen, Chilled or Awestruck, it gains 1 AP and has +2 DMG for the attack.

Sundered Exploit (7 Nora)
When this champion makes a successful basic attack against a target with Sundered, Scoured or Fatigued, it gains 1 AP and has +2 DMG for the attack.

That leaves UD, SP, FS, and KF without Exploits of their own. What do you all think are the most likely trigger sources for these exploits in their factions?

 

None, I think we should remove other exploits cause they're unbalanced and superflous.

 

I am thinking for Swamp Exploit, the conditions would be Poisoned, Soultapped, and Ensnared or Confused (maybe).

Peaks Exploit should be Dogpiled, Distracted, Shocked.

Not as sure about Depths Exploit and Forest Exploit.

 

Depths Exploit
When this champion makes a successful basic attack against a target with Charred (fire), Bloodied (vamps), Ensnared (Spiders)

 

UD: Charred, Blinded, Bloodied
SP: Shocked, Distracted, Twisted
FS: Poisoned, Blinded, Soultapped
KF: Illuminated, Ensnared, Enflamed

 

My only problem with the SP list is that Twisted is just on one champion. Dogpiled hits the same theme, but is already on a broad base of champions.
FS with blind is slightly better. Two themes (Salaman and Mirefolk) have repeated access to it, and there is one piece of equipment that can activate it, so I guess that would work. KF has no champions that cause Enflamed.

 

not Enflamed for KF but Pacified

 

Good substitute.

 

Well, a lot of conditional +1 speed abilities are valued at 4 nora. That is pretty fair. And things like Exploits are providing a conditional +1 (or sometimes +2 speed). You aren't going to generate this unless you are actively engaging your opponent, and it does not impact your AP cap so both of these things count as minuses, but in the right situation (where your opponent has the condition and you can trigger it twice), it is really good. So I think I would probably put it at 5, maaaaaybe 6 at the most but that is almost certainly too much.

Stat Bonus: Damage 2 is worth 3 nora. Conditional +2 damage has to be worth less than that.

So even in the less charitable situation I would say (6 for the ap gen, and 2 for the +2 damage) I would peg it at 8, which is only one of from where it is now.

 

KF- Illuminated, Ensnared, Charmed

 

I would think of it more as a conditional Multiattack 1 (plus a +DMG component) as opposed to a conditional +1 SPD (plus a +DMG component). Both Multiattack 1 and +1 SPD are 8 nora so it doesn't matter all that much for this argument.

Edit: Though it should be noted that Multiattack and [Faction] Exploit work together so a champion spends 1 AP on the first attack, if conditons are met, and 1-3 AP on the second attack (depending on the rank of Multiattack). There are, though, relatively few champions with [Faction] Expoit and various ranks of Multiattack.

 

Exploits are stupid for the simple fact that theyre so easy to trigger, and once the trigger is produced multiple exploit champs can benefit from it and wipe out an opposing champ(s). Most noticeable example of this is forsaken exploit

Edit: and if youre deadset on keeping exploits the same in regards to giving ap and dmg, then theres no way all exploits should cost the same

 

It should also be noted that you can attack twice with Multi 1 and six AP, but not with Exploit and six AP. Gotta have seven and one is left over.

 

What if we take away the AP gain clause? And reduce the cost, of course, it will be just an bonus DMG against champions with certain conditions.

Also:
UD: Charred, Blinded, Bloodied
SP: Shocked, Distracted, Twisted
FS: Poisoned, Blinded, Soultapped
KF: Illuminated, Ensnared, Enflamed

Is wierd, Twisted is only on one champion, and I don't like Dogpile either, cause dogpile allready add DMG. Blinded in two separate factions sounds weird to me too, I would take Ensanared for UD, keep Blinded for FS, and KF gets: Illuminated, Pacified, Charmed.

 

Without the AP it would be even more boring. Rather take away the damage

 

I wouldn't mind this.

 

AOE Forsaken Exploit is about as silly as theme wide multi-attack. I do not have a fundamental problem with it outside of that.