I would like some opinions on this BG please. I'm wanting to try out Tortuns, and saw someone with this split. Thought I'd try my hand at it, and would like some help from others that have more experience with Tortuns. https://poxbase.com/deck/cu_chYcawco7CyOcyDCyACivcyUcxxco8cyIS6Ls8osas84S2-s7usYS4Pr2qrWe22e23
the thing with SL and tortuns is that your units used to get big benefits out of attacking (high damage, nora generation, combo attacks) that were balanced by ponderous and you could use quickening to increase the number of attacks, also, stalling then powerturning fit tortun playstile very well. Later, while I played tortuns most, the key was tortalleon pygmy CA: devastate with quicken/quickening and tortun mortar with siege and artillery strike. Now, I'm not sure, but I will try to help with a quick overview of tortun champions (sorted by rarity): Split hero: Tremir craghide (violence charged 2 and TT): efficient combat unit but he's key with cannon barrage, tremir win games alone, never let him die. Mangleshell (vindictive): powerful ranged unit with vindictive, but he's not tremir and you cannot run him if you run tremir so run tremir, really, tremir I could see mangleshell working with some kind of death benefit with not so many tortuns, but that's other matter. Legendary: Tortun Bokor (annex and cursed treasure) : mid range unit, good stats/cost annex makes your bg a little faster early game Exotic: Captain (ready and TT): melee-range , cheap, fast and durable, actually benefits from multiple attacks with vigorous cry, autoinclude IMO. Privateer captain (cripple and land mine) a bit expensive but with access to slam and land mine that can combo nicely with many things, range 3-4 instead of 2-4 hurts his capability to deal with melee champions 1 on 1. Risen grenadier (explosive attack and whatever) solid ranged unit, but expensive because long fuse bomb is a bit weird to use and is hard to get something really productive out of it. Rare: Tortun battle mystic (mystic push and any rank) : mystic push stacks and it's really good and ranged arrow eater makes a difference sometimes Tortun Corsair : The cheap build is way worse than captain, you run one because of tariff or pilfer shenanigans. Tortun favored (nora shield 1) : too costly and empowered isn't really the thing for tortuns, you can nora shield summoned pygmies andmake the ability useful, but your opponent has a lot to say in that. Tortun gunslinger: Solid but a bit expensive Tortun portalmage (deploy charged 2, charged heal) : Very good, one deployed early enough means a good match for you. Tortun repeater: (lay trap 1 and defensive strike): very solid, cheap enough, defensive strike can be used with slam to increase damage output. Uncommon: Pygmy: efficient but clumsy at 5 speed- Broadside: really dangerous but 5 speed is a downside galesinger: not good, too short range and too low damage Hawker (detection and declare target) really good support unit with detection, declare target and hawk attack, cheap Inventor: costly, he won't surprise anyone with skewer or paralyze without stealth Slamhammer: costly, pummel and multiattack are going opposite directions. Commons: gunbattery: too unreliable transport: doesn't work Fishkisser: not sure, he can be a problem for your enemy and it's the best tortun for one on one but he isn't cheap and manic is a big liability early game. Tortun grenadier (fire bomb 3, explosive attack 1) very good, cheap with knockback and a bomb, also alt damage Tortun groundpounder (charge and banditry) solid, impressive damage and between charge opportunistic his low speed doesn't matter a lot. Tortun mortar (siege and burn) really long range with siege it's a winning card and you can also exploit artillery blast with some skill. downside is 5 speed. Tortun minelayer: too slow to be useful So, I would go with something like Tremir Craghide Tortun Captain x2 Battle mystic x2 Tortun repeater x2 Tortun Groundpounder Tortun portalmage Tortun Hawker Privateer Captain Tortun Broadside Tortun Mortar support from: Quicken Quickening Hive Horn of Order Purge/Dragon god's staff Sandstorm/burning sands/acid storm Cancel magic /backfire Drone signal ??? (knockback tricks) Minefield/hungry mire Magnetize tranfusion And you should complete it with some SL champion as to get some flexibility, as tortuns don't have access to good offensive support units and there isn't any stealth unit or font harrasser. Draksar fabricator can gift rifles to portalmages or tremir Skeezick vanguard can make the bg move faster you could make a cull/punish module with thunder, judge torien, hunchback I will be back if I think of something, but right now tortuns have little to no synergy IMO, only good thing is tremir
https://poxbase.com/deck/c5gCvJCzZcxMCzhcu0cu_co7CyDCyACizs1s6Ts11s5jE3AE23 How's this look? I know you prefer Tremir but I like Mangle.
