I might be mistaken, but don't avatars take damage from units being knocked into them? I'm sure I remember using gale force to kill avatars, but I just played a game where it didnt work - my unit took knockback damage, but the avatar didnt. I know that they cant be knocked back themselves. So my question is: was this changed recently, or is this always how it worked?
I'm 100% knockback into shrines isn't WAI. I've tested and reported it's damage being reduced for no aparent reason. Dunno about Transfigured Avatars.
As far as I know, shrines behave like relics, therefore being able to take damage from knockbacked champions. The reduced damage might be explained by the 30% damage reduction they have, although I think it reduces more than that( really need confirmation though, my memory sucks). But of course I have no idea if they should be taking such damage, despite the fact that it does make some sense.
Check section 4.1.2, specifically 4.1.2.3.1 : https://verumvenari.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/completearcanerules-1-2.pdf If the situation does not mesh with the listed requirements for Large-unit KB, then give a complete description (or even a little diagram) and we'll figure out what's up.
http://forums.poxnora.com/index.php?threads/knockback-dmg-on-shrines-inconsistent.17589/ It's way more than 30% damage reduction
In this specific case, I was trying to kill the enemy kf avatar by gale force-ing my Crystal dragon(2x2) into it twice. Is the 2x2 part the problem here? If so, why is this the case?
You would need to have them properly aligned, as described in the complete rules. In the case of 2x2 units, either as the KB'd champion or as the unit into which the KB'd champion is trying to move, exact positioning is very important. Can you provide a tile-precise description, or perhaps supply a diagram?
Hmm, I just checked this out and the damage reduction only appears to apply to the Shrine and non-transfigured Avatar. This may be tied to the Shrine Resistance ability, but the amount it is reducing the knockback damage doesn't appear to be consistent with the description of the ability. You said it was the KF Avatar. I assume you meant the un-transfigured Avatar?
Unless you had them completely base-to-base, no damage would be dealt to the avatar. No other alignment puts their top-most tiles in line, so while the Dragon would always take obstruction damage, the avatar won't take damage for being the obstruction.
This was the problem. They weren't base to base. I didnt know that the system worked this way, thanks.
The actually mechanics really are a bit unintuitive, but yes, that basic rule will hold: 2x2s need to be base-to-base if you want both to take damage. (The originally knocked-back champion will always take damage if it's obstructed.)
