Let's Revamp DOTs

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by newsbuff, Apr 7, 2016.

  1. Lushiris

    Lushiris I need me some PIE!

    Weary, Enflame, Burred. I'm not sure about Inhibited either, since it has just been removed so putting it back wouldn't make much sense.
     
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2016
  2. Phynixe

    Phynixe I need me some PIE!

    This is too broken. The ideas are unique and creative, I like it, but we need is balance.
     
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  3. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    itd be nice if this happened but it probably wont, lol. we've been waiting for the fw faction bonus to change for over a year now.
     
  4. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    The ability "True Nature" applys "Confused" condition, just found out
     
  5. Lushiris

    Lushiris I need me some PIE!

    Only for the attack though, it doesn't really give the condition to the target.
     
  6. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    Oh so the way it works is that the attack "ignores" upgrade abilities, do not remove them?
     
  7. Lushiris

    Lushiris I need me some PIE!

    Exactly. So if your champion has evasive as an upgrade, Plainswalker is going to deal damage as if it didn't. Same with absorb, he shouldn't trigger it.
     
  8. Joker

    Joker I need me some PIE!

    I firking love this! Weary Poison and Trauma are great!
     
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  9. newsbuff

    newsbuff Forum Royalty

    How do you know they're imbalanced if they aren't costed yet? And furthermore the Magic and Psychic DOTs/Secondary effects aren't even on any champs yet - for all you know, they're on squishies, or expensive relics or something. I agree they need to be balanced, but that wasn't really the goal of this thread - only to propose concepts.
     
  10. Phynixe

    Phynixe I need me some PIE!

    1. It'll put a few runes to ruin, because if these ability turn out to be cheaper than I assume they're going to be, the game'll be broken and we'll be seeing a ton of nerf patches.
    2. They removed the secondary DoT effects for a reason.
    3. DoTs aren't that hard to apply due to spells and high ranged units. (Especially the Psychic one, throwing wandering off just like that, Psychics are already strong, this'll just break them.)
    4. The secondary effects already have specific costs, but putting that onto units at a higher/lower price is just weird. This is just like Ready and Opportunistic now.

    I know you're proposing concepts, and like I said, they're creative and unique, but you still have to keep in mind the balance. The game is already broken; cost adjusting doesn't really balance the game if the abilities are broken.
     
  11. Cydna

    Cydna Forum Royalty

    Psychic Anguish is pretty much a Psychic DoT secondary effect. But yeah Wandering from DoT for 3 turns would be so OP. There's a reason why Hallucinogenic got nerfed.
     
  12. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    [​IMG]Guilty Trauma
    Units that become Traumatized also become Merciful for 2 turns.

    The idea is that your trauma weakens your warrior mind by increasing your remorse so you cant finish off the enemy
     
  13. poinl

    poinl I need me some PIE!

    What about ponderous?
     
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  14. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    [​IMG]Depressing Trauma
    Units that become Traumatized also become Depressed for 2 turns.
    *Traumatic experience and you get depressed, might be op because its AoE

    [​IMG]Frightening Trauma
    Units that become Traumatized also become Frightened for 2 turns.
    *Same as above but not AoE

    [​IMG]Numbing Trauma
    Units that become Traumatized also become Weighty for 2 turns.
    *You are so firktup mentally that you cant even run properly

    [​IMG]Risking Trauma
    Units that become Traumatized also become Reckless or Careless for 2 turns.
    *When traumatized you are not able to measure risks or you dont care about them
     
  15. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    [​IMG]Burdening Trauma
    Units that become Traumatized also become Ponderous for 2 turns.

    I like it
     
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  16. Phynixe

    Phynixe I need me some PIE!

    I don't see the point of "If this unit becomes X, then it become Y." That's like telling a man who's looking for a gas station to take the following directions on a main road: "Take a left, go straight, take a right, go straight and you're there." If you look at that logically, you could've simply told the man to go straight. If you want the champion to be frightened off an attack, then give it frightful blows. There's no reason to create a DoT that does so. DoTs are there to provide extra damage, over time, and I think their role should be maintained. There's no reason to break the game with a new function.
     
  17. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    Thats not the point, people use Spark Crone in Curse decks thanks to "Spark Curse", thats the idea behind this abilities, to enable split themes based on DoTs.
     
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  18. Cydna

    Cydna Forum Royalty

    Somebody call doubtofbuddha! These people are trying to buff splits.
     
  19. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    Not to buff splits Dx, devs are supposed to give this abilities to champs in factions that do not have that many dot type sources, so players make split decks around that ability with factions that one would not think to pick for that.

    For example "Weary Poison" in SL, FF SL Poison is not strong at all but players might comeup a split SL/FS Arthropods/poison, for example
     
  20. Lushiris

    Lushiris I need me some PIE!

    Wearying a bunch of enemies whenever they take damage from a Poison Cloud just doesn't sound ok to me.
     

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