so ff kf is going to lose +1spd

What happens to the bunch of 5 spd champs? Also will the 6 spd be changed into 7 spd?(i hope not)

 

If there is a change to the faction bonus there will have to be a faction-wide review of the champs.

 

Yeah if the faction bonus goes away and gets replaced with the most recent -terrible- idea then we are probably looking at a mass exodus of KF players.

The faction's only real advantages comes from their superior range and speed/mobility. Both stats are already the most expensive stats to buy hence our inferior damage, defense, and hp. KF is already only a mid tier faction.

 

The new idea sucks very hard...
the old bonus sucked too btw

 

What is "the new idea"?

 

Check out the first post in the Cactaur Crate in the general forum.

 

I continue to oppose this proposed change. It is akin to circumcision of a 23 y/o without anesthesia!!

In fact, I even wrote my senator and congressman requesting a new law that prohibits DOGz from changing KF's bonus.

 

Would it be really bad if instead of the bonus being all the units having +1SPD, it was "all the units have Ready?"
Can be as fast early game as it should, but not as fast when the skirmishers are happening...
Keep the +1AP cap thing and the same split bonus as it has now.
I think this is a simpler solution than the complicated suggestion we have on the crate.

 

The split bonus is part of the problem. The current one is terrible.

 

I realize that, but to be fair split bonus shouldn't be the base for discussion.
I, for one, would like to see split bonus gone, so people cant use it as an excuse.
How do you feel if there were no split bonuses and KF FF bonus was "all units have Ready"?

 

Sounds terrible to me. In order for the faction bonus to be in effect the champs would not be able to do anything except move. If they activate any ability they lose the faction bonus. As far as split bonuses going away if all split bonuses went away I wouldn't have an issue with it.

 

I would... LOL

 

Yay for split decks tho. Hoping sprite will also go up to not super slow now.

 

Apparently I need to share a pic of a 23 y/o receiving a circumcision without anesthesia to make my point clearer...

I will do what must be done, for the good of Gotham!

 

What about upon activating an ability costing 1 or more ap, we get 1 ap back? Split is 3+ ap, or something. (obv. once per turn each)

Actually, think about that, what about not each? What about the first 4 (2 for split) 1ap+ actions a unit takes per turn refunds 1ap?

 

Does this mean that the speed would largely remain the same for the champs, but instead of having a +1 SPD bonus they would be refunded a nora value equal to the cost of a point of SPD? Would this further mean that they would keep their current FF SPD, having to pay more for it up front, but getting a refund more or less to the current cost level?

 

Out of all of the ideas I've seen thrown around I like this one best. It scales well between split and full faction and it allows for KF to still be speedy but it slows down deploys due to having to pay a steep cost up front even if there is a refund. Isn't this mostly the same as the SP bonus though without the sliding scale they have and without having to wait for death?