So next patch is for Heroes

Discussion in 'Forsaken Wastes' started by Djangoguy, Mar 31, 2015.

  1. Djangoguy

    Djangoguy The King of Potatoes

    Merry Christmas!

    Let's share our thoughts on them here, as Sok can read then all together!

    Serkan, Lich Master
    Race: Undead, Lich, Class: Wizard, Demi-God
    Nora Cost: 80

    Champion Stats
    DAM: 11, SPD: 7, RNG: 5-7, DEF: 0, HP: 47

    Champion Abilities
    Attack: Electricity
    Teleport 2
    Jolt 2
    Boon
    Hero

    Upgrade Ability Set #1
    Life Siphon
    Sentinel *base*
    Defensive Strike

    Upgrade Ability Set #2
    Debilitate
    Cripple *base*
    Weary

    Equip only a Lich. This champion gains Vengeful and Vindictive.

    Xulos, Undead Sage
    Race: Undead, Skeleton, Lich Class: Wizard
    Nora Cost: 79

    Champion Stats
    DAM: 11, SPD: 6, RNG: 4-5, DEF: 1, HP: 44

    Champion Abilities
    Attack: Psychic
    Drain 2
    Death Pact
    Boon of the Undead
    Hero

    Upgrade Ability Set #1
    Blessing of the Fallen
    Commander: Skeletons *base*
    Motivate

    Upgrade Ability Set #2
    Dark Favor 1
    Dark Favor 2 *base*
    Dark Favor 3

    This relic has Soul Linked. At the end of each turn, this relic gains 2 MAX HP. Xulos has +1 DMG and +2 HP for every 10 HP this relic currently has. You may only have one copy of this rune in your battlegroup.


    Moragen the Lost
    Race: Undead, Zombie, Class: Bard
    Nora Cost: 75

    Champion Stats
    DAM: 10, SPD: 6, RNG: 1-3, DEF: 1, HP: 48

    Champion Abilities
    Attack: Sonic
    Deafening Aura

    Siren Song
    Boon of the Undead
    Hero

    Upgrade Ability Set #1
    Dread
    Frightful Aura 3 *base*
    Unspeakable

    Upgrade Ability Set #2
    Zombie Herder
    Hex 3 *base*
    Battle Hymn

    #BRAND NEW STUFF#

    Sarinda
    Race: Human, Class: Witch
    Nora Cost: 76

    Champion Stats
    DAM: 10, SPD: 6, RNG: 4-5, DEF: 0, HP: 45

    Champion Abilities
    Attack: Magical
    Death Touch
    Cast: Foul Rite (8 nora)
    Elsarin Coven
    Hero

    Upgrade Ability Set #1
    Relocate: Foe
    Swap 3 *base*
    Relocate: Ally

    Upgrade Ability Set #2
    Raven Tongue
    Pawn *base*
    Dark Raven Form

     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2015
  2. Uruboz

    Uruboz I need me some PIE!

    Holy trinity of avernus!!

    Thumps up for Serkan class: Demi-god and Jolt :D
     
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  3. XFurionsX

    XFurionsX I need me some PIE!

    Me like: your the statue idea.
    Me no like: jolt on serkan and why it has to have a frost cone, what if i dont like frostcone?
     
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  4. yobanchi

    yobanchi I need me some PIE!

    I don't like frost cone... makes him too similar to grimlic
     
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  5. Djangoguy

    Djangoguy The King of Potatoes

    Hmmmm no Frost Cone? Maybe we can streamline Serkan a little like this (edited).

    Added Xulos nora cost!

    For Moragen, I really don't know what to do with her (she even have an equipment?).
     
  6. XFurionsX

    XFurionsX I need me some PIE!

    No she dosn't, i was going to say that the lack of Moragen in this thread concerns me.
     
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  7. darklord48

    darklord48 Forum Royalty

    I don't have Moragen, so I can't really speak to her. As for Serkan, I still prefer the choice of debuffs for an upgrade path over jolt. Perhaps Jolt on base and Cripple, Debilitate, Weary on Upgrade Path 2. I think Chain Lightning can be removed. Personally he doesn't need any kind of bomb.
     
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  8. Djangoguy

    Djangoguy The King of Potatoes

    Indeed! I tottaly forgot about debuffs! I have edited it for Jolt 2 on base again.

    I'm sorry but I'm not in home for a detailed post about Moragen, what you want her to change?

    *Edited Vendetta
     
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  9. Djangoguy

    Djangoguy The King of Potatoes

    Actually, I'm thinking about a new ability to Serkan, something like this:

    Touch of the Death (15 nora?):

    Any champion damaged by this champion's basic attack becomes Crippled, Wearied, and Debilitated.

    Thoughts?
     
  10. Ifem21

    Ifem21 The King of Potatoes

    Where is Weary is the U2 lines? There are two debilitates XD

    And WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO XULOS? IS THAT A MIRACLE?
     
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  11. chickenpox2

    chickenpox2 I need me some PIE!

    why dies statue need bith soul linked and soul siphon it can't do damage so just give it link
     
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  12. Uruboz

    Uruboz I need me some PIE!

    I like the idea of the 3 debuffs in one skill, make that like Ancient Corruption or Corruption skill, just for one turn/few turns.

    Serkan's Touch skill-like on base, remove Frost Cone (Maybe you dev guys add that skill to Hoarfrost Lich? its more alike for him imo)

    OR

    Keept Cripple on base, add on the current second path (the frost cone upgrades path) a Debilitate, togheter with Jolt 3 and Chain Lighting. And do something about Draining aura, like remove from ranged champs to start with, was cool when that was just a visual effect.

    Serkan, Lich Master
    Race:
    Undead, Lich, Class: Wizard, Demi-God
    Nora Cost: 85

    Champion Stats
    DAM:
    12, SPD: 6, RNG: 5-7, DEF: 2, HP: 52

    Champion Abilities (no more draining aura)
    Attack: Electricity
    Teleport 2
    Cripple
    Boon of the Undead
    Hero

    Upgrade Ability Set #1
    Life Siphon (10)
    Weary (3)*base*
    Defensive Strike (10)

    Upgrade Ability Set #2
    Jolt 3 (9)
    Chain Lighting (7)*base*
    Debilitate (11)


    Leave Vendetta alone imo.

    STILL there are several runes that need more work, serkan actually is a decent rune right now, just remove draining aura from him.
     
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2015
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  13. Djangoguy

    Djangoguy The King of Potatoes

    Oh lol, fixed U2's Serkan!
    Do you liked Xulos? :)


    I have thinked about it, but only with Soul Linked there's no scalling power on Statue, it's hard to "buff" it without overpowering too much, hehe.
     
  14. darklord48

    darklord48 Forum Royalty

    On statue, just replace Preordained with Soul Linked. It already has a method for growing.
     
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  15. Djangoguy

    Djangoguy The King of Potatoes

    Would you run him with the 3 debuffs?

    Hero equips will be changed on next patch, they will be no more, it's not a thing that I want =/
     
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2015
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  16. Djangoguy

    Djangoguy The King of Potatoes

    Nice catch! This could be a bit of OP, but less than FS Bane Shift. ;) I like it (edited)
     
  17. Uruboz

    Uruboz I need me some PIE!

    Yes I would. A shame what you say about hero equip runes :(
     
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  18. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Seriously though, the Statue is probably fine, Xulos just needs to be a better deploy.

    Edit: Unless Serkan gets some really sick (and cheap) option over Siphon, that's always going to be the best option. Anything else in that particular line is a no-show.
     
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  19. Djangoguy

    Djangoguy The King of Potatoes

    I do think that Statue potential is too slow in currently meta to play with it on ranked, even in a FW mirror match. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
     
  20. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    It may be too slow. Currently, it averages 1.44 nora-stats a round, with 30 nora overhead and 7.2 instant return. It will therefore take ~15 rounds for a 100% pay-in on Xulos. Increasing it to 3 hp/turn would improve the average yield to 2.16 nora-stats/round, reducing the 100% return time to ~11 rounds. That may be too oppressive, though, as the game increases. Another route would be reducing the Statue's cost to 20 without changing the yield rate. The 100% return time would go to ~9 rounds.
     
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