I don't have to. I can use your own logic against you . You support Muslim's coming into this country (assuming) but, in Quran it states that non Muslim's may be killed , must pay a special non Muslim tax, amoung other examples. Talk about a group people (religion(?)) who say one thing but mean another? Now, I have already gave my strong anti Muslim sentiments in this thread, and i was punished for it. so if you want, we can pm about it, otherwise I will have to be careful because it is not accepted. Either way, I appreciate the discourse truly.
this is soks political problem in a nutshell, he honestly only sees this in conservatives and cant see it in liberals. as someone who doesnt take sides i can see it clearly in both. the "your side is X" arguments is exactly why politics is the way it is these days. "my side does nothing wrong!!" is what the simple think.
It's not logic. It's an opinion. My opinion is that politicians and public servants should be about doing what they feel is best for the people. That's what their job is. And I think it is interest of the public if these people are honest about their goals and intentions. It's not a war between democrats and republicans where each side should do whatever it takes to win. There is enough room for differences of political opinions. Some people think it IS a war, and that their side needs to control everything and "win." ~ As for your point, I don't judge people based solely on literal interpretations of the scriptures of their religion. There's a lot more to people than that. And besides, if we did that, many religions would be "problematic" and not just Muslims.
This article seems appropriate here. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/01/trump-immigration-ban-terrorism/514361/ In summary, if I recall right, Trump's administration wants to cut back on potential terrorist threats from Muslim countries, so they choose those seven. But in a forty year history, of all the seven countries listed, the US has had 0 (that is zero) terrorists killing Americans from the seven countries on the temporary ban list. So this means that Trump's stance is not established well enough since the death of Americans have come at the hands of terrorists in other nations not listed.
lets stop arguing with the national socialist, it is clear he does not understand that what he says can be equally applied to christianity.
Sok, don't worry bro. The Canadian ban is not till next month. You got plenty of time to accomplish nothing in this game and spend your time in the off topic section.
See Aaron David Williams on this topic: the EO doesn't really address much of what people purport it should address (terrorism), and might even exacerbate the real sources of worry (domestic radicalization). So, even looking at it through the lense of solely addressing terrorism, and ignoring any enforcement, compliance, or other roll-out problems, the immigration EO was a clunky and ineffective way to do it.
But the Koran is by definition a literal translation of the word of God, directly from the prophet Muhammad. Christianity's bible is God's work as described by man. Anything not pox related will just be posted in meme form from now on btw, since I honestly can't voice a real opinion about any issue without getting banned xD (and I actually do like discussing gameplay)
I don't think it does. My point is that Christian doctrine similarly considers the Bible to be functionally the word of God. This is why the Apocrypha is not a part of the Bible as they are not considered to be divinely inspired, despite often sharing many of the same messages/passages or even being written by the same authors as the books included in the Bible.
A better example would be that Caltholics believe that transubstantiation is the body of Christ, in the same vein that Muslims believe the Koran is the direct word of God. Christians do not believe the Bible to be infallible, whereas Muslims believe the Koran to be infallible. This may seem like a pointless argument to us sitting on computer chairs, but it may not be to someone literally living in a desert. About to get a green card. Into a country where their beliefs do not coincide with society's. I certainly have mixed feelings about Christianity myself, but that doesn't mean I think that Islam is a religion of peace. Nor even more peaceful that Christianity, if I'm being entirely honest.
I think in practice you will find this is actually an excuse to dismiss the parts they don't want to follow/like, while keeping the stuff they do like, rather than a principle of infallibility.
couple points real quick- i know some muslims that don't believe the quran is infallible, or readable without needing to interpret it in a modern way. i know many christians who believe the bible is the literal word of god, and that questioning it is borderline sinful. also, if you were "banned" for expressing your views, you wouldn't be talking still. a mod removing your post is not the same as a ban although, if you were trying to get around calling yourself a naZTY earlier, i can understand why you might think these forums aren't exactly sympathetic to you.
I won't argue against that. One of the main benefits of religion has come through instilling moral values in society. Today as a man, if you want a good woman, you don't go to a bar or tinder, you go to a church. These are real life examples that can keep society functioning in a healthy manner and not leading to degeneracy. Islam does the same thing, and in someways it does it better. But it also comes with a much steeper price tag. Islam was written as a guide for medieval conquest, it doesn't have a place in modern society. Leave it in the desert, is my opinion.
Ultimately tho, when it comes to religion, most of it is subject to personal interpretation as well as different levels of adherence/devoutness; and it always looks more rigid if you are less familiar with it and the people actually practicing it.
