The Laboratory - Poxnora Creative BG building Guild

Discussion in 'Guilds' started by MaruXV, Mar 29, 2017.

  1. MaruXV

    MaruXV Corgi Vanguard

    Hello fellow poxer. Do you usually spend more time building your bgs than eventually playing them? Do you pass more time on qpoxdb than in ranked queue? Do you get scolded at work/school because instead of focusing on what you should be doing you are brainstorming about that champ's ability that should combo with that spell and could lead to a kinda working split bg? You just found your place, where people like you (and me) can brainstorm together to give birth to new wonderful creations! And maybe if we share our ideas we can get a someway working bg. Or just have fun together. here's the link to join us!

    Let me share some of my creations to start the Fun. Share yours, and welcome to
    the Laboratory!

    FS/ST Snowballin Morsels

    A comboish bg abusing chronomancers to get a lot of mana, and get snowballs for attackless champs.

    KF combined

    A ranger - archers - warriors bg focused on stats-boosting

    KF/IS centaurs
    A centaur theme bg to make use of rally the herd

    FS/SP fried frogs
    A fry bg heavy on beasts for magnify beasts and sotm.

    UD/FW PoolFun!
    My personal version of ethereal pool bg with a draw block angle with darkness

    FS/FW zombie collective
    A collective bg with all zombies races + some fs utility.

    KF/UD Sherwood forest
    kf/ud archers bg, working on interaction between imposing aura tanks and cull from nefari resurrection

    ST BeasTanks
    a st bg phalanx-style based on stacking debuffing auras and getting very tanky beasts out. Dmg is gained by fast friends - encouraged.

    FS/SP (highlander) collective utility

    this bg is in honor of the highlander collective tournament I run a couple months ago. It follows the rules of tournament, so all champs must have at least one race different from each other.
    It seems also runnable in ranked, a lot of utility and nice units. Maybe i should have run this bg during the tournament...

    FS Poison-combo sally

    a salaman bg based on poison dmg and globule-temple combo

    KF Rushbears
    A garu bg focused on sustained melee aggression and mobility gained by aurora banner/aurora lance
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  2. MaruXV

    MaruXV Corgi Vanguard

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    MaruXV Corgi Vanguard

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  4. MaruXV

    MaruXV Corgi Vanguard

    well, i can say its my honor and pleasure to announce our first join, the legend @iPox . the true Master Builder now has a new shiny laboratory to test his experiments!

    btw, what you think of the morsels bg? i kinda find it lacks something. morsels being consumable can heal a lot on enemy units if you dont stay careful and drop them far, but doing it they are slower. maybe i need a couple of inhibiting units...i was thinkin about darkmarsh defiler to get also adaptive procs from spells...
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  5. mintdude1

    mintdude1 Well-Known Member

    Hey Maru, i'm not looking to join the guild :D however i'll give you some feedback on your bg's. All of your BG's run near enough 2x of every rune, i heavily suggest running mostly 1x of your runes (apart from the obvious like marsh song or redcap twins)... you need to try and build as many counters into your bg, whilst also sticking to a theme, and the best way to do that is to diversify the amount of individual runes that you have. Just about all of the bg's that i build nowadays run 1x of each rune, plus its just very easy for your opponent to counter you if you run 2x same rune, for example say 2x augurs, they'll just bring out an unstoppable champ or an arrow eater, and you'll have just spent 150+ nora on what is effectively now pretty useless. hope this advice helps!

    (feel free to tell me to get lost lol, just thought i'd give you some potentially helpful feedback :)!)
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  6. MaruXV

    MaruXV Corgi Vanguard

    . I know the golden rule of "have answers to more things you can", and i usually build very highlander-ish bgs, but in this page for now i posted mostly extremely "focused" bgs that are very unbalanced towards one kind of gameplay. For example, the fry bg has 2x drown, 2x lightn storm etc to get max utility from being focused on water gen/fry. of course there are matches where the double drown is completely wasted (ex. vs fs), but also there are other matches where you have almost autowin (ex. summon bgs, where you fry all the summons easily and you can drown their main champs that usually are quite expensive).
    Its the problem with this kind of "extreme" bgs, they are incredibly strong in some matchups and extremely weak in others. So yes, maybe i could make them more "metalike", but then the whole point of building them would be lost. like you should. get lost.

    ^_^ just jokin, i made this guild (and thread) to get some feedbacks, so im happy to receive them, man.
    Next wave of bgs is highlanderish one i made for tournament, so stay on for the experiments!
  7. mintdude1

    mintdude1 Well-Known Member

    Haha that's cool man; then in that case i think what you're doing is a great way of exploring new combos etc, i'll try and contribute where i can ;D
  8. Hierokliff

    Hierokliff Well-Known Member

    Thought i'd be sneaky and join with an alt account, but cant figure out how to do it.
    the guildfunction in poxnora is BAD.
    ah found you on page 14 in the guild directory
    is it possible to add a link to the guildpage itself so if anyone can join the guild easier?
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  9. MaruXV

    MaruXV Corgi Vanguard

    the name of your alt will decide if you can join :) thanks for the idea, i'll drop the link in first page.
  10. MaruXV

    MaruXV Corgi Vanguard


    the family is growing!
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  11. Hierokliff

    Hierokliff Well-Known Member

    if you want silly powerful champs, goblin kings + spare parts is very fun, did test this bg in 3 skirmish games, then i quit because it was so OP i would stop play FF IS if i didnt.
    the dark force are strong :) would probably change a few things, like removing the fire ruby for another cool goblin if i had them.
    for spare parts constructs to goblin, need to remember its only upgrade 1 that are transfered.
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  12. MaruXV

    MaruXV Corgi Vanguard

    seems very fun to play! maybe a little too intricate to make it work but still enjoyable
  13. Capitulator

    Capitulator I need me some PIE!

    Hi! Had a little trouble finding time to play much recently but I'm sure that'll change. Here's a (text) description of my Psionic Impact BG:

    Knock, Knock!
    This is a BG that uses regular Psionic Impacts with psychic AoE attacks

    8 champions with Psychic Blast:
    2xFirk Mindweaver, 2xJellebrium Overmind, 2xJellebrium Extispicer, 2xDoombringer
    2 champions with another AoE:
    2xFirk Voidmage
    5 cheap/support psychic champions:
    2xFirk Botonist, 2xFirk Infiltrator, 1xFirk Spellblaster

    Core runes. The knockback spell and portable terrain for knockback damage:
    2xMystic Whirlpool
    2xPsionic Impact

    Fill the remaining 11 slots with utility runes. Things like the mushroom, poison cloud for more damage can go here too. I used:
    1xBackfire Boon, 2xHungry Mire, 1xErode, 1xCorrode, 1xBanner, 1xBubble of Protection, 1xPool of Dreams (for Favor), 2xMarsh Song, 1xTwisted Emerald
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  14. MaruXV

    MaruXV Corgi Vanguard

    i love this bg.

    whats the plan vs flying and amphibious champs, that are immune to whirlpool? just KB them into other things?
  15. Capitulator

    Capitulator I need me some PIE!

    Well, the whirlpool is kind of like an admission of failure. Ideally you play a kind of Sokoban knocking champs into each other.

    For flyers you can use illusions from the Mindweavers. I also ran Tendrils of the Deep, where you put the edge over a chasm then knock flyers over the edge: they get grounded and cliffed. A bit too cheesy though, so I took that out.

    Psychic immunity is tough too. Have to knock other champs into them.
  16. MaruXV

    MaruXV Corgi Vanguard

    i'm soon going to register some games and put them on the video section, just to spice it up while we get new expansion and the client gets more ready to hold a tournament^^
  17. Hierokliff

    Hierokliff Well-Known Member

    Hmm interesting with Centaur IS/KF split, centaurs are a favorite race of mine but with just 2 of them in IS its kinda impossible to play that theme. so think iam gonna try to get the others, but if i see right there are just 11 champions in the game with race: centaur, that is bad news for any deck. and of those 11 are 2 a copy of a hero that cant be used in split, and one is SL draksar centaur. so down to 8 possible champs? need to find me 1600shards to forge the missing ones and see if i can do another version of your centaur deck.
  18. MaruXV

    MaruXV Corgi Vanguard

    i think they are only playable in split kf is or kf ff. if you want join me in workin on the bg. i have some spares too
  19. Hierokliff

    Hierokliff Well-Known Member

    Oh, forged all but 2 commanders. This is my first attempt on it, would probably use 2 commanders if i had it, but need to test more before i try to get another one.

    Had to add bless of al'mara, just too much 2x2 units that i cant move really unless they are flying, allthough i guess i should try without it and use Pathfinding on both centaurs instead.
    Providence is incredible powerful on ranged units
    And so are Wildeye bracers, especially being near Sarnghavian Centaurs and their vivify pumping up those extra AP for every attack.
    IS spells are so powerful, divinitys touch, earthquake, grintmaw hymn, hammerstrike and macadamize works with everything

    KF relic for cleanse and heal and the warbanner because i think all champs are KF

    A huge drawback on centaurs are, they are only physical damage.
    No extra small attacks that do any other damagetype, so would probably have to remove a few of them for other champraces or add more equip and go down to 12-13 champs.
    (maybe 2 pureblood plainswalkers instead of centaur archers)
  20. MaruXV

    MaruXV Corgi Vanguard

    lack of alt dmg is why i went with barb druid as support unit and i included 2x wit of almara and burning seed. also strip armor is nice to get dmg output from all our phy dmg units. strip armor into rally the herd = nice powerturn.

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