UD faction bonus needs to be fixed

Ranged champions should gain just as much damage as melee.
Discuss.
@mw24 @badgerale @Agirgis1

 

Disagree, fine as is. More damage is not what we need.

 

I'm disgutsed... degh.

 

I actually think there shouldn't be any damage bonus on range 3+.

The faction would be much more interesting to me if it was purely close range, and so was forced to play in a different way to the other factions.

 

Can we fix the FW bonus as well?

"Oh but it isn't broken"

*dies inside*

 

So you're fine with other factions outdamaging UD, both in melee and range?

 

it's okay yobanchi. I want FW to be just like every other faction too.

 

Of course not , but just giving us more damage will not fix anything. (also power creep)
What we need a more refined way of buffing, finesse abilities over damage increases.

 

It was already like that previously. They changed it for a reason, because having a shitload of damage on a ranged champion just by deploying it was ridiculous.

 

All the range units in UD feel weak. Since there is now a formula where everything is more or less equal (especially since range has been adjusted) i think it is time to change it back.
Should I remind you that this change was made back when UD got Grimlic released, and a lot of range units before the formula were also released at a completely different cost quite often with above average damage.
If any of the range units after this become OP (there probably will be a few problematic ones but I doubt it)then we could just tweak them individually.

 

Yeah, UD doesn't really do the kind of buffing setup tactics that other factions like IS do. We are more a fast and loose sort of playstyle.

So I don't necessarily think it's a problem if some factions can get better melee than UD, as long as they don't get it without added effort/runeslots/time.

 

This is not a balance issue , its a play-style preference issue, hence i dare not say this or that is true.
It seems UD players enjoy the Melee focused style of play.

 

Da fuqq are you running in UD if youre consistently getting outdamaged????

 

I do too. in almost all of my BGs I run Mindslicer Obelisk. I just think there's no reason for the range option for UD to be so weak and closed.

 

Melee UD is fine, when was the last time you seen UD range in play? I'm not paying 95 nora for a 16dmg 4-6 range unit with no defensive abillities and only an AoE attack.

 

What you guys need is for DEPs beckon demon to get a cool down of 1 again.

 

Lol more like blatantly op in some cases. Have you seen sheoul demon? Gahlroonling is still insane as well, people are just too stupid to run him.

 

The new naria is good in UD, as are harbs (but i understand that theyre insanely hard to get), the 4-6 range girl with ammunition is good, etc. You cant get insane melee champs AND great range too. Then youd be IS

 

Sheoul Demon was recently buffed, I don't agree that he's INSANE. But he is strong indeed. Although I may be biased, since I haven't actually played it.
Haven't seen gahlroonling in play for a while, did it change last patch?