That's right, let's throw down some ideas for new Vothsair runes. Gedden mentioned it on the last Q&A and any UD player that doesn't like the Vothsair is a liar. Without further ado, here's some of my ideas. Feel free to comment on them or provide your own. I'm not going to put in nora cost (because of algorithm) and we can all assume that all of these runes are UD. Gedden suggested this ability to put on them (I came up with the name): Unstoppable Wrath - If this champion misses an attack then it makes another attack against the same target for free. Every time this triggers this champion gets +1 DMG until end of turn. Vothsair Wrathmage Race: Demon, Class: Wizard Rarity: Exotic, Size: Large Flavor Text: "The most fearsome aspect of the Vothsair is their indomitable rage. That's why he is the most deadly force in the Vothsair Spires" Artwork: Vothsair wearing blood-red robes over armor holding 4 staffs which are glowing red and black. Stats: DMG: 10, SPD: 6, RNG: 1-3, DEF: 2, HP: 49 Abilities: Attack - Magical Blind Rage Stir Rage - Target Large Demon in 6 spaces gains Fury until end of turn. If it already had Fury reset it's attack chain and give it 2AP instead. (AP: 4, CD: 3) Path 1: Magic Blast Knockback 3 Strike Path 2: Grant: Rage Potion Drive Train: Berserker 2 Vothsair Ragefist Race: Demon, Class: Warrior Rarity: Uncommon, Size: Large Flavor Text: "Please walk quietly, a single Vothsair is all that it will take and I will be unable to save us" Artwork: Vothsair wearing bloodied steel coverings on all his hands about to beatdown a party of dwarves. Stats: DMG: 12, SPD: 6, RNG: 1, DEF: 1, HP: 52 Abilities: Attack - Physical Blind Rage Path 1: Pummel 2 Pummel 3 Slam Path 2: Knockback 2 Pounce 2 Violent Vothsair Hoarder Race: Demon, Class: Warrior Rarity: Rare, Size: Large Flavor Text: Some Vothsair like to collect the biggest weapons that they can find. After all, what better use for 4 arms? Artwork: Vothsair with a dozen different man sized weapons strapped to its back wielding 4 similar weapons. Stats: DMG: 11, SPD: 6, RNG: 1-2, DEF: 1, HP: 50 Abilities: Attack - Physical Blind Rage Weapon Hoarder - Equip target friendly champion in 5 spaces with a Night Blade, Sheoul Firebow, or Hate Leech Path 1: Equip: Night Blade Equip: Sheoul Firebow Equip: Hate Leech Path 2: Shield Throw Throw Axe Notes: The exact equipment for the Hoarder I'm unsure about but definitely that's how I would structure him
I like the Hoarder. Always loved the "Equip:X" ability. Not sure if Shield Throw is needed. (He is also a hoarder, so I don't think he would want to throw away something.) Not sure about all of them having Arrow Eater. Seems a bit OP when running them all together. All of them having Faithless however would lead to some interesting playstyles.
Faithless and Arrow Eater are there because the original two have them. I agree that having a race of units with Arrow Eater is a tad overpowered. Maybe downgrade to Evasive 1/2/3 or some other anti-ranged mechanic.
Vothsair Rampager Race: Demon, Class: Warrior Rarity: Rare, Size: Large Flavor Text: "Don't even try running" Artwork: Vothsair running down a dirt path very fast swinging his weapons willy-nilly. Stats: DMG: 12, SPD: 7, RNG: 1, DEF: 0, HP: 49 Abilities: Attack - Physical Blind Rage Charge 3 Path 1: Crushing Charge Crazed Charger Blitz Path 2: Break the Line Quest: Runner Running Strike
Here's an idea. Let's say that Vothsair get the following ability: Blind Rage - This champion has Faithless. As long as this champion isn't occupying any spaces in your spell presence this champion has Arrow Eater. As a tradeoff for being immune to ranged (unless they have precision or strike, I can't remember which) you don't have the surprise value of being able to use battlefield spells and aren't able to sac/ret your units. Do you guys think that's balanced? Or is it still too much?
Arrow eater absorbs the damage when hit from a ranged attack, so neither precision or strike counters it. I think it's balanced to be honest, I like it. However, It would change Reaver's usability as a font tank. So maybe don't give the racial to him, but other Vothsair can have that racial. (Not all champions need racial is what Gedden is saying after all.)
them having arrow eater outside of spell range is pretty good, but maybe simply having absorb would do more good while not being OP if vothsair becomes a theme (which I hope happens soon)
I say give the Reaver Font Defender back, it's in his lore Vothsair Reaver Metadata and Stats unchanged Attack - Physical Perseverance Blind Rage Line 1: Blood Frenzy 1 Blood Frenzy 2 Blood Frenzy 3 Line 2: Font Defender Hold the Line Multiattack 1 And some new ideas I got last night: Vothsair Spires (Relic) Nora: 45 HP: 30, DEF: 1 Effect: Friendly Large Demons that aren't occupying spaces in your spell presence gain Violent. Whenever you deploy a demon champion from your runedock it gains Faithless. @Gedden , how do you like this brainstorming session? Any suggestions you'd like to throw into the mix?
The effect is gimped by the fact that it is not preordained, fonts and shrines also have spell presence.
But only in the deployment zone right? Preordained wouldn't be a terrible idea on it but you don't need spell presence to deploy relics.
I think your missing the points here. No preordained means any champ you deploy before you get the relic will have a spell presence. Shrines have a spell presence of AoE 10 and fonts a spell presence of AoE 6. The way you have it worded. "Effect: Friendly Large Demons that aren't occupying spaces in your spell presence gain Violent. Whenever you deploy a demon champion from your runedock it gains Faithless." Means that for rather larger portions of each map. Weather the champion has a spell presence or not. They will either be in the font or shrines spell presence and therefore not get the bonus. It also implies that only 2v2 champs will get the bonus. While still gimping ANY demon of their spell presence regardless of size. The rune should be as follows to work correctly. Vothsair Spires (Relic) Nora: 30 HP: 15, DEF: 2 Effect: Friendly Demons that do not have a spell presence gain Violent. Whenever you deploy a demon champion from your runedock it gains Faithless. This relic is preordained. This would be perfect.
Mine specifies my own spell presence so the only place on the map where they don't get the bonus is my own shrine and font deployment zones. It's meant to work with the fact all the Vothsair already have Faithless. I agree with the Preordained thing though.
can they get the bonus while only IN spell presence instead? Having little spell presence is a little hard to play with as is, so why not make it so you have to keep a vothsair in spell range if you want him to be stronger. It'd be a little hard if you have to move all the way out of spell range just to gain arrow eater where you'll probably be hit already just coming up with a 2x2 fatty, then greeted by his melee to possibly either keep you in spell range or just finish you off. Now if it were only inside he gained arrow eater then perhaps he'd have a better time while still being restricted from venturing too far on his own. I also like the idea of being more absorb over arrow eater on some vothsairs just so they aren't completely OP against range.
Well the idea is that the cost for completing dominating range is that you don't have access to targeted spells.
since vothsairs are so huge and have four arms I am going to suggest a new ability. Rip in half: target non-unique champ within two spaces is ripped in half. (ripped in half: target champion is is replicated and both units become eviscerated 5) Any equipment equipped is destroyed. This could set up madding echo's and fire blast gibs. Replicate is when two champs are created from one and the hp is cut in half like the kf slag or imp familiar. I like the Goro flavor it gives vothsairs. Should it work on friendly's and opposing champs or just opposing champs? It should work on large and small units, to me.
pox logic dough. Eviscerated 5 is show them bleeding out. Maybe they become surrounded by blood globes instead? If you rip in half a large champ that swallowed another champ whole, it frees the swallowed champ. (To avoid the swallowed champ for being replicated as well)
