why support unit cost so much?

first I will say I maybe miss some runes, I am not familiar with all functions
lets start:
IS
Dwarven Sergeant - 5 speed had surge and lost it and a lot more cost now 69 1 of the cheap have drive and Rallying Cries
Houndmaster - cost now 75 have drive and boost

ST
Lonx Beast Tamer - cost now 77 have drive and invigorate
Aspect of Infinity - cost 83 have Divine Favor and Duplicity lost blindfire got 7 speed I don't know for what she need it
Chronomancer - got haste and slow cost 72

SP
Feshcaller Mika - cost 83 have heal mass and summon

UD
Deep Elf Summoner - cost now 77 have drive and summon
u can add whatever rune that it a support


I have 2 suggestion:
1. lower the damage they got, if they don't have damage give them abilities that will reduce them cost
2. bring back passive - cost (between -5 to -10)

 

Support is hardly support anymore. Most of those units bring a very respectable combat threat as well.

The only problem is that there is no discount for not having a basic attack and most basic attacks cost nothing. This is a huge flaw in our system that Sok is pretending doesn't exist.

 

Drive seems to be a common theme here. Got bumped to 10 nora a couple of patches ago.

 

so as I say bring passive back - cost (between -5 to -10)

 

Passive would give some weird interactions with abilities if they are coded as attacks.

Also if you think those are bad supports, just look at the sad state of FW supports.

Tomb Lord is like 90 nora
Mysian Necromancer last I checked was around 90
Lich Servitor is about 80 nora
Dark Aprentice is flat out awful
Cleric of Unrest is ungodly bad at 7X nora unless you run liches.

Not to mention all of these have terrible stats.

 

DE temprtess with 5 speed and 59 nora and still worse than other support units.. she really bog down by her upgrades

 

Yeah, It was six nora before if I remember right, which was definately too cheap for such an amazing ability.

 

Ises worst support champion Dwarven Alchemist.


Low damage, HP, low speed, a rank 1 bomb and a few cheap upgrades, 80 Nora...

Meanwhile a flying action potioning guy cost around 60 for less trim, and better abilities

 

Let's give all champions Adept Arcanist for 0 nora, and see what happens. Maybe then they'll realize how much does a basic attack cost.

 

But if every champ has adept arcanist who has basic attacks?

 

Ah the good old modifiers.

 

Expressions of balance preference.

 

- yeah stop calling them modifiers...thats like saying lumbering champs have modifiers (which is technically true)...but its just their cost. Makes it sound like your giving charity to passive champs

 

I SUPPORT THIS THREAD

NO PUN ITENDED

BUFF DEDICATED SUPPORTS

 

Angel of Mercy cost 77 Nora.


I swear Sok said intensify changes wouldn't shoebox angels... Guess he forgot one...

 

Tomb Lord isn't only a support unit he got surge too
Mysian Necromancer agree
Lich Servitor isn't support at all he have Lich-born and surge
Dark Apprentice can't agree more bring him despoil again
Cleric of Unrest agree

 

her problem is her range

 

few more Examples
Spell Blockade 50 nora there is a lot of spells that cancel magic that cost a lot less
Crystal Elemental can't even call him support
Dwarven Beermaiden kind of support
Fae Advocate can't even call him support
Frostfall Icewisp can't even call him support
Still Life - need to cost now less
G'hern Sustainer kind of support
Goblin Spellkaiser can't even call him support
Jakei Maiden vs Angel of Mercy Heal Mass3 and Cleansing Aura I think maybe lost Mark of Al'Mara are worth it
Myx Coordinator
Silverclan Tinkerer
Snake Charmer too many abilities?
Spirit of the Mountain - Spirit Projection maybe cost too much hard to call her a support unit
Tortun Portalmage dmg to "0" and maybe Charged Summon Tortalleon cost too much
Yeti Spirit can't even call him support

Albino Fesh 90 nora but not belong to here
Aspect of Chaos 90 nora and got Channel: Damage that he can't use
Nefari Messenger take her Life Siphon and maybe some range
Spectral Emissary take his flight
Stitched Magearm lower his hp, maybe Magic Eater to upgrades?

Stitched Merged lower his hp maybe def too
rework on Meld abilities
Stitched Seamstress need a rework on his U2

 

I'd call it a modifier because there isn't a universal value but whatever sok believes it deserves. I'm not saying there isn't a rhyme or reason to his method just saying it's not an equal cost reduction.