Leoss post-revamp

Discussion in 'Split Faction' started by Gaedel, Jun 26, 2014.

  1. Gaedel

    Gaedel I need me some PIE!

    At first glance it sure seems like Leoss really took a hit. Bluefist, Redfist, Magnate, Hraken, Mosharn, Ward no longer grants DEF to other units. Any other races look this much worse now? I'm sure there are more comments to be made, I'm just not as knowledgeable as most of you. I love my Leoss. I just hope they can be viable after these hits.
     
  2. Garr123

    Garr123 I need me some PIE!

    Unless I'm missing something, then Tortuns no longer have any detection, which is a drag.
     
  3. Woffleet

    Woffleet I need me some PIE!

    are they?
     
  4. Sirius

    Sirius I need me some PIE!

    I faced Bluefist and Redfist in battle. They are not interesting as runes (they just uh...do and resist damage now), but they're crazy strong (imo). I mean crazy strong compared to what my KF/SL deck was able to throw at them.
     
  5. Gaedel

    Gaedel I need me some PIE!

    Previous shoebox Leoss changes:
    Leoss Border Patrol - Still very expensive (83-96). 83 points with Leap 1 and Reflexes 1. 96 with Leap 3 and Reflexes 3. Detection 1, Hidden: Vegetation, Pride of Ailur. Maybe the 13 damage, 7 speed, 55 HP is what puts them over the top in nora cost.

    Chirai Outrunner - 79-86 nora. Leap 1/2, Evasive 1/2/3, Detection 2, Pin Down, Pride of Ailure, lower damage with 9, but speed at 8 and still Attack: Spear range 1-2.

    Leoss Guardian - 66-79 nora. Melee Specialist 1/2/3, Reflexes 1/2/3, Protective and Pride, lowered to 10 damage.

    Paragon of Ailur - 62-66 nora. Grant Reflexes/Grant Evasive/Grant Mobility, Train Defense/Train Damage/Train Mobility, Soul Bond, Soul of Ailur. No more Heal Mass or Counterattack: Ranged. Still melee.

    Wall of Ailur - 86-94 nora. Readiness/Block 2, Stun/Shround/Defender 3, Hold the Line and Soul of Ailure, only 9 damage now, 2 defense, 60 hp.

    Of the above I can see Guardian being used more, Outrunner with the 8 speed. Leoss Border Patrol I'm not sure if this is enough for the cost. Paragon nothing spectacular, Wall expensive tank.
     
  6. Gaedel

    Gaedel I need me some PIE!

    Here is my new Leoss battlegroup post-revamp with Mosharn:

    http://poxbase.com/#!/deck/Cyjcyhci...0ciucoqs5Xs19s1Ys2Lsls13s6MsPr30rirYe2Pe1@e3i

    I dropped Bluefist and Redfist down to one each, added a Leoss Guardian and Pantier Lurker, dropped Unobstructed View and added Righteous Deflection to keep my expensive runes alive. I also added a Disarm and dropped my second Chirai Outrunner.

    Please critique away...
     
  7. Gaedel

    Gaedel I need me some PIE!

    Upgrades:
    Bastion Remnant 1 & 2: Reflexes (3), Battlemaster (3).
    Bloodmane Ravager: Rend (3), Pounce (3).
    Bluefist: Supercharged (2), Soul of Ailur.
    Chirai Outrunner: Leap (2), Evasive (3).
    Jangar Arcanis: Frost Cone (3), Flamestrike (3).
    Leoss Druid: Tunnel Vegetation (3), Heal Mass (3).
    Leoss Guardian: Melee Specialist (3), Reflexes (3).
    Leoss Magnate 1: Pride of Ailur, Haste.
    Leoss Magnate 2: Soul of Ailur, Haste.
    Leoss Monk: Righteous Shield, Invigorate (2).
    Mosharn the Barricade: Tough (3), Hold the Line.
    Pantier Lurker: Detection (3), Shadowspawn.
    Redfist: Supercharged (2), Soul of Ailur.
    Ward of Ailur: Defensive Attack (3), Motivate.

    Any recommendations here? In terms of upgrades, such as Reflexes, Battlemaster, Heal, Tough, etc., is it worth the extra cost to go with the best one, or better to save the nora?
     
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  8. vipoid

    vipoid I need me some PIE!

    Out of interest, what do people think of Hraken the Bloodbow, post revamp?
     

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