MovnTarget's Moving Target of Balance Patch 3

Discussion in 'Sundered Lands' started by MovnTarget, Aug 1, 2014.

  1. Beasts for life

    Beasts for life I need me some PIE!

    How about making desert walker 8 Nora instead of 12. High tide is only 8 Nora.why is desert walker so expensive?
     
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  2. paldirs

    paldirs Devotee of the Blood Owl

    Rock front (rock): 2 nora
    Forest walker (vegetation): 4 nora
    Desecrated zone 1-3 (dead magic zone): 2-6 nora
    Ferocious growth (impeding vegetation): 8 nora
    High Tide ( impeding water): 8 nora
    Ice Front (Ice): 8 nora
    Lava Front (impeding lava): 10 nora
    Desert walker (Sand): 12 nora

    Am I missing any?

    I would put sand in the category rock/forest, since it has no direct disadvantages for the opponenent.
     
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  3. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    Huh, yeah thats odd, the only thing we can do directly with sand is the charred condition from "Burnning Sands". How is it more expensive than Lava front??
     
  4. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    yes please
     
  5. Kampel

    Kampel I need me some PIE!

    Serpentor Ardent is boring right now, he could be an expensive champ i dont care but he is booriing with boring upgrades.. ranks of regen and ranks of fear. Legends deserve more!
     
  6. G_Ro91

    G_Ro91 The King of Potatoes

    Give Blackscale Centurion his utility back. I suggest removing protective and giving him back either Command:Block/Cast:Blood of the Dragon or Drive/Cast: Blood of the Dragon.

    Draksar Lord to get Draksar Warcry or Commander: Draksar.
     
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  7. Beasts for life

    Beasts for life I need me some PIE!

    Black scale needs 1-2 range and drive.
    His role has always been support tank.
     
  8. Pedeguerra

    Pedeguerra I need me some PIE!

    Ugh, no.
    People want their runes like they were pre revamp, its not going to happen, deal with it.
    Also, theres no such thing as a "support tank" role. Pick one.
    Sorry if this seems salty, but people need to start having a reality check.
     
  9. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    Really? I thought a "support tank" was gnarlwood patriarch.
     
  10. Garr123

    Garr123 I need me some PIE!

    Messing around with Skeez some more:

    Warmage could really use Alliance on base. Blast is a really expensive ability and isn't very useful on a dude with 9 damage, and without Instigate I don't know why you'd run him. Would prefer the Regen line was just removed and replaced with Blast and some other options.

    Rioter is another unit that could use Alliance on base, maybe. I dunno.

    Overall, Skeezick are really fun to play now.

    Still say Skeezick Alliance is overcosted. It's 4 Nora, while Surge 1 is 5 nora and is way more useful in a theme deck and doesn't come with the caveats of needing 3 units out and having units die. Seems wonky.
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2014
  11. Garr123

    Garr123 I need me some PIE!

    Also, after losing repeatedly to loads of stealth, I can't stress enough how badly Skeezick need better detection. Trapsmith is dumber that he looks as detection, because even if its a low HP hero stealth capping your fonts or an obvious Head of Osarius, you have to send 2 champs to go deal with it as Trapsmith can't do anything by himself, leaving your frontline weaker than it should be.

    I don't mean to harp on it, but good god it sucks. Skeez basically have to bend over and take it against stealth if you don't want to go out of theme.
     
  12. Pedeguerra

    Pedeguerra I need me some PIE!

    Yeah, awful desing, needs fixing. Not something we as players should aim for.
     
  13. Dagda

    Dagda Forum Royalty

    no, support tank is braum


    :^)
     
  14. MovnTarget

    MovnTarget Forum Royalty

    Stand Behind Me!
     
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  15. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

    When you have problem, you come to me first
     
  16. Faust

    Faust Devotee of the Blood Owl

    This

    and Fallen Draksar as SPLIT RUNE
     
  17. Faust

    Faust Devotee of the Blood Owl

    Leona
     
  18. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    Also, half of IS stuff is beefy support units, and I don't see anyone crying about that. Look at the pala decks, they're build upon beefy support and broken angel.
     
  19. Centuros

    Centuros Active Member

    Fallen Draksar is a zombie.
    We don't work with zombies.

    Not EVERY reanimated non-human has to be split with the faction FW took it from.
     
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  20. darklord48

    darklord48 Forum Royalty

    I actually dislike split runes. They don't encourage playing a split, they just allow two factions to play them. I prefer ally, when an upgrade, since that encourages playing a specific split. Otherwise you end up with things like the old Kanen Slipped being splashed in most SL/x or SP/x splits.
     

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