So Ghern Juggler

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Beasts for life, Jul 20, 2015.

  1. Beasts for life

    Beasts for life I need me some PIE!

  2. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    I dont have a problem with Juggler so much as I have issue with 38 nora, initiative, 28 damage death novaing, Fire Volatility champs. Buggers show up outa nowhere and suddenly boom like 40-50 AoE damage.
     
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  3. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    its only a problem when it stacks with other novas, which is incredibly broken. Otherwise it wouldn't be much of an issue.
     
  4. Beasts for life

    Beasts for life I need me some PIE!

    Still 2 Nora for nova plus self destruct cd 1 and only 1 ap.
     
  5. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    That's ok, as long as it isn't stacking with other novas to do insane aoe.
     
  6. Beasts for life

    Beasts for life I need me some PIE!

    If they remove self destruct it will be fine, but even then 2 Nora is too cheap for a potential 14 DMG every turn.
     
  7. Bellagion

    Bellagion I need me some PIE!

    Eh, you'd have to sacrifice a champion every single turn to do that. It seems reasonable. Just nerf Moga Sapper and things will be fine.
     
  8. Beasts for life

    Beasts for life I need me some PIE!

    For the Sapper I think he needs to lose initiative.
     
  9. OriginalG1

    OriginalG1 I need me some PIE!

    Ghern Juggler fits in a space that moga cannon would fill in a moga bg to me. Just dose it way better. That ish cray.
     
  10. Beasts for life

    Beasts for life I need me some PIE!

    Do you feel it at least needs a cost increase?
     
  11. chickenpox2

    chickenpox2 I need me some PIE!

    The easy way to fix it is change death nova fire to something else like sonic or acid
     
  12. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Needs more SP/FW summon abuse.
     
  13. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

    Do you read what you're saying?
     
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  14. chickenpox2

    chickenpox2 I need me some PIE!

    Yes just saying that if they could change to a different type of damage then they can stop the bs combos
     
  15. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    lol, no.
     
  16. themacca

    themacca Master of Challenges

    That would actually help a lot

    Also give the sapper pariah
     
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  17. Beasts for life

    Beasts for life I need me some PIE!

    Any reason you disagree or is that all you can come up with?
     
  18. mw24

    mw24 I need me some PIE!

    it would shoebox the rune. the rune is supposed to be strong, just not broken like it is now with stacking novas. Sapper alone isn't even that good in most cases.
     
  19. Beasts for life

    Beasts for life I need me some PIE!

    That's more like it this what we call a discussion. Lol, no does nothing. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Okay back on point Sapper will still have the same DMG potential except your opponent will be able to position and prepare for it if initiative is removed.
     
  20. chickenpox2

    chickenpox2 I need me some PIE!

    just remove sapper completely
     

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