We asked SOK to give us some data to show KF is the most OP faction and he said he may do so. I did not see any such data yesterday. But i have some new info about the proposed kf bonus nerf. All factions have a faction bonus of about 8 or so nora in a ilities. We looked at that before. KF has 1 speed that cost 7-8 nora, especially the fs and sp ones can easily be converted to nora. The new proposed bonus to replace the kf speed has a calculated nora cost of 2. (I itiative 1 has nora cost 5 and its more than twice as good, you get double rounded up +ap, plus max you can get is almost twice. To me, unless all kf champs are super super op, or all of spells are super super op (must show in meta dat if its the case), this is really unfair to all kf players. If now by some reason devs wants to kill the kf feeling of high speed fragile tricky units, the reason many of us choose the faction some 5 years ago and spent our whole pox career collecting runrs for, would it not be at least fair if we got aomething new with similar power level like the other factions have? Or like we had before? All you ppl who scream kf must be nerfed, kf is op etc, please explain how this change is fair. If indeed a few champs or themse in kf is op, why not then nerf tjose instead or killing the whole faction by giving then a non thematic faction bonus (makes them passive defenders instead of offensive fragile quick tricky champs) that is inferior (2 nora vs 8-10) to all other faction bonuses if counted in nora cost and if looking at the effect on gameplay, especially considering this bonus kicks in when kf needs it the least. in regards to their new bonus beeing non thematic (defensive rather than offensive, promotes passive play rather than quick), i made a good example why this is the case for SOK in anither thread. Besides this, it seems kf has become the new moga due to alot of kf champs got speed nerfed and cheaper nora cost instead. If u look at the top players kf decks, they all ein by fficiency of kf champs beeing cheap, not because of superior speed. Maybe instead of wakjng up an old mga factoon bonus and giving it to kf, creating a new "MOGA" theme over the elves (that never were numerous nor accepted numerous casaultise swarming the enemy with new waves of breeds of elves in any lore), maybe its time to review the way their champs are developed and give the most effective kf champs uhigher base speed and higher nora cost, so they cant doninate the meta, but are super fun for the new players to run around with?