Buffs for Next Patch

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Sokolov, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. Sealer0

    Sealer0 I need me some PIE!

    But totem is good.
     
  2. Bonice90

    Bonice90 I need me some PIE!

    id like to see ferpent getting boost:range , leverage:ferren or guarded:ferren, dunno something to integrate it again with ferrens, since the ferren focus removal and it being the only non-monk ferren it has been excluded the poor guy.
    Id like to see also on of em getting mag atk being spinner or dancer my candidates to have it.
     
  3. Gorebucket

    Gorebucket Forum Royalty

    Gnarlwood Tanglefoot:
    • Remove Pariah (+5)
    • Multiattack reduced to rank 2 (-4)
    • Hidden Vegetation added to second upgrade path.

    Rationale: The removal of Flurry makes Pariah unnecessary and denies him access to many support abilities. The cost reduction afforded by reducing Multiattack to rank 2 offsets the increase caused by removing Pariah. He can still achieve Multiattack 3 when rooted (at the cost of his mobility). Allowing the choice of Hidden Vegetation lets him live up to his role as a sneaky rogue, since he's long been stripped of his role as a glass cannon.

    Tanglefoot (Plant, Treefolk, Rogue)
    DAM 6, SPD 5, RNG 1-3, DEF 2, HP 40, Nora 69*

    Attack Physical
    Multiattack 2
    Take Root
    Entangling Attack
    * Shatter
    * Hidden Vegetation
     
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  4. chickenpox2

    chickenpox2 I need me some PIE!

    Pantier Lurker
    Put shadowstrike to upgrade 2
    Put shadowspawn to base

    Leoss druid
    jungle font -3 nora
    and/or merge jungle font with trailblaze and give cost reductio- possibly 7 nora

    Ironfist Glider
    Fix reckless flight so its movement is less random and doesn't move backwards
    reduce gain control to 8 nora?
     
  5. Gorebucket

    Gorebucket Forum Royalty

    The idea of giving him Preparation has come up in the past. If he must keep Wandering, Preparation is probably my favorite suggestion for making him more of an active participant in a battlegroup.
     
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  6. xezno

    xezno I need me some PIE!

    Verdant Promise

    Currently this spell is a worse version of Unassuming Tree. See: http://forums.poxnora.com/index.php?threads/verdant-promise-vs-unassuming-tree.10717/

    I would love to see this spell be something theme specific for Vashal since the art has one pictured. Maybe along the lines of a defensive single target buff to vashal (+def & HP?) or grant stealth/domain vegetation.

    Another random idea, have it grant the Take Root ability to a champion. Could be used offensively or defensively if a champ is possessed and then this spell is cast upon them. It buffs them but locks them in place. Guess that would be more for split decks however. Anyway just a few ideas. Would love to see this spell get some real use.
     
  7. Rokkushun

    Rokkushun Devotee of the Blood Owl

    Both your posts in this thread are quite wonderful. I hope you become more active, I wasn't aware you'd returned to us.
     
  8. xezno

    xezno I need me some PIE!

    Preparation seems like a very thematic idea for the tree theme in general. They take root and then begin to "grow" stronger and gain greater range of attack. I love this!
     
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  9. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    For the record. I'm pretty sure Sok want to do Maljaran as a whole patch unit. Lets avoid posting them here, and putting any wants for them on the thread where it belongs.
     
  10. chickenpox2

    chickenpox2 I need me some PIE!

    these changes already mentioned by sass and me
    i feel that these changes can be made before and it won't impact changes to the other champs and these changes are easy to do
     
  11. junithorn

    junithorn I need me some PIE!

    Nefari Messenger
    - Lose life siphon
    - Lose 1 speed
    - Losing annex would be cool but it seems like its mandatory on diplomats.
    Ash Demon
    - Lose fester
    - Add trail ash
    - Replace shadowspawn/still life path with death nova/something?
    Cinderpede
    - Tunnel: lava upgrade path replaced with something useful (maybe something to give him more than 5 speed)
    Deep Elf Monk
    - Pummel to base, path 1 becomes selection of disciplines?
    Gundlewolf Alpha
    - Upgrade path 2 replaced with surge beast/declare hunted? (reflection is just the worst)
    Incinerator
    - Speed 6? Ready? Opportunistic?
     
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  12. Vote Kanye 2020

    Vote Kanye 2020 Better-Known Member

    I don't think that giving a 17 damage, life siphon champ more ways to gain even more damage is the right path for G.Alpha. I really hated the pre revamp UD units healing for 15 damage per hit and I really don't want to see that repeated on a different champ :3
     
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  13. BurnPyro

    BurnPyro Forum Royalty

     
  14. Sirius

    Sirius I need me some PIE!

    Ok, following you so far, but why the cat face? Why...
     
  15. Cydna

    Cydna Forum Royalty

    Why not T_T
     
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  16. Mausini

    Mausini I need me some PIE!

    Frostfall Hydra:
    Is much to expensive and has no defined role.

    -5 HP
    -1 Def

    Lose Rapid Attack 1/2/3 in U2
    Gain Escalating Rage / Tunnel Snow 2 / Regen 2 in U2

    Lose Ice Eater in U1
    Gain Vulnerability: Fire

    The idea:
    Spellsurge / Tunnel for a terrain centric approach
    Regen / Spont Regen for a more tank approach

    Escalating Rage for a beater build
    Vul: Fire for people that want to run him cheaper

    It also fits to his lore. Frost and snow with hunting with its glacial caverns. Regen fits to a Hydra too.

    ST Crystal Stuff:
    see Calisk. In general the whole "theme" needs to be looked at but it would be a start to make most champs actually runnable.

    Throatrend Lonx:
    U 1 Fury to Protective
    U2 Rend 1/2/3 to Evasive 1/2/3

    Yeti Avalacher:
    Give him Escalation back. His name is Avalacher not Fearpony

    Hoarfrost Lich:
    Recosting of Phylactery Bound

    Corrupted Guardian:
    Give him some more tankyness. Thats what is missing in FW right now.

    Eye of Serkan:
    U1 lose Soul Channeling, gain Soultap

    Strig:
    Recosting of Boon of the Wind or simply delete it from all Strig. There is no Strig theme anyway. This would make some of them playable.

    Jakei Heretic:
    Elemental Zephyr instead of Blood Magic
    Snowball instead of Fear Rank 2
    Lethargic instead of Fear Rank 1
     
  17. learnedone

    learnedone Well-Known Member

    I would just like to see violent removed from dragon handler in SL. Reason being you can't run him in a draksar bg since he has surge dragon and in a dragon bg it won't proc since he is not a dragon.
     
  18. learnedone

    learnedone Well-Known Member

    I can't figure out why Akakios is so expensive? If it's the 7 spd, can it be dropped to 6 since his damage output is really low anyway and replace annihilate with flamestrike 3.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2015
  19. theKraken

    theKraken I need me some PIE!

    Deep levitation
    Charged attack removed from base(-4)
    Cataclysm removed from base( -20) (does anyone actually like this?)

    Annihilate to base + 10 nora
    Scale armor to base +8 nora
    Speed to 6

    Fire aura 3 or lava storm to first upgrade path
     
  20. IMAGIRL

    IMAGIRL Forum Royalty

    Cataclysm is kinda of his shtick.
     
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