About splits again.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Firk, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. Firk

    Firk I need me some PIE!

    To start with i am against splits in ranked becase it breaks up faction identiy to pointlessness.

    But if your going to allow them and this seems to be the general opinion, please allow me to use whatever heroes i want.

    Its really frustrating to try and do a palla split for example but not being able to use Euan and Talgar.

    anyway i asked for this before.
     
  2. 19madfox95

    19madfox95 I need me some PIE!

    Wasn't there an idea going about that all split-heroes and heroes will be called just heroes and limited to one per deck?
     
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  3. Netherzen

    Netherzen I need me some PIE!

    It was a good idea but it never happend.
     
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  4. kalasle

    kalasle Forum Royalty

    Has not happened yet*
     
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  5. Revengercm

    Revengercm I need me some PIE!

    Some split heroes could do well in full faction decks. It's a shame.

    to the OP, what about stitched, kanens, leoss, etc....
     
  6. TeaNinja

    TeaNinja I need me some PIE!

    If you take away splits you divide the playerbase, and the game starts to become boring b/c you're limiting creativity for lore. And as mentioned what about my Stitched? I support consolidating hero and split hero and making them 1 hero per deck though.
     
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  7. aseryen

    aseryen I need me some PIE!

    I think it'd be much more beneficial for Poxnora to remove Titans, Heroes and maybe a few other full faction released runes such as Aspects. From there if a side deck was worked those champions could be placed there. If a game mode was made for ranked or unranked so that after X turns or if you cap X fonts or some other kind of game within a game, is made to grant access to side decks, that may work too.

    Another game mode is a stretch and a side deck is even more of one; If Heroes, Titans and Aspects get a total rework they could be made so that U3 or U4 changes their class or if at CP3 you can change their class or make them a split rune.

    Sok has already mentioned adding U3 to some champions and I think a side deck could grant access to 3 lines rather than releasing U3 runes into the whole of Poxnora.


    As for splits being in Ranked, I've never made a split thinking I want that Split-Hero in my bg, if they happened to work then great, if not no worries. I get the reason why Heroes and Split Heroes can't be played, and once they become accessible to both FF and Split then lets hope more x1 limit runes will be created as well. The reason why more runes aren't made x1 limit is beyond me, but that I think would be more beneficial to Pox than reworking heroes.
     
  8. themacca

    themacca Master of Challenges

    didnt you make a thread like this last week?
     
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  9. aseryen

    aseryen I need me some PIE!

    Me? I do that often.
     
  10. themacca

    themacca Master of Challenges

    no the person who made the thread.
     
  11. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Um... I don't remember saying this. Either way, to clarify, adding additional upgrade lines is extremely unlikely and in no way planned.
     
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  12. aseryen

    aseryen I need me some PIE!

    Yup, was thinking of double upgrade lines, apologies. Same position on those correct, unlikely/not planned?
     
  13. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    I don't know what you are referring to.
     
  14. Etherielin

    Etherielin The Floof Cultist

    The only thing Sok was talking about, and is encouraging, is adding a 3rd upgrade within U1 or U2 lines for champs, who lack some or run stuff like 3 ranks of the same ability there.
     
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  15. Axeraiser

    Axeraiser I need me some PIE!

    The game was never more populated than when there was the match filter in ranked. If you were playing FF you had the option to select only to be matched up against other FF players or you could select both , and vice versa for splits. This worked for everybody because at the time splits were utterly dominant and the casual player had no incentive to play because they were getting shat on by split cheese.

    While the population isn't great and people might argue it would increase time to get a game I'd argue returning the match filter would bring the casual players out and it in no way hinders players who want to abuse their split BGs.
     
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  16. TeaNinja

    TeaNinja I need me some PIE!

    I remember those days. There were a lot of decisions made that turned off players from back then to now. I think the main reason the population was highest then is simply because the game wasn't as old back then.

    And I'll just say unless we retain a very large amount of Playstation players, I don't think the pros outweigh the cons for a filter.
     
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  17. MaruXV

    MaruXV Corgi Lord of FW

    Even if i dont play them very much in ranked, i feel split are a good thing for this game. They create a whole level of deckbuilding, and i understand that i'm not the only one who is here also because of the deep bg building. Playing only FF would end up being "play theme X,or Y that are better at the moment, or get the strong units and play goodstuff bg."
    Having splits makes you search inter-faction for interactivity by race/class/dmg type etc. Its means so many creative possibilites that taking it out would make this game poorer than before, in terms of deck variation.
    FF still has a bonus + can play any heroes of he faction. Splits can have access only to split heroes, and only one per bg.

    Man, maybe i'm crazy but i would even like to see circus bgs free to be played, (without any faction bonus, with a neutral avatar with 50hp and no font bonus, and without access to heroes of any kind. Or maybe having a couple circus heroes fitting the theme. Like Surge factions, +1 dmg for each champ with a different faction in play),
    ...If it wouldnt mean the devs have to pass most of their time balancing broken interactions and strange combo decks based on bugs.
    Maybe one day, when the code will be clearer, something like this will be possible. Not anytime soon i think.
     
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  18. Firk

    Firk I need me some PIE!

    this thread was more about allowing heroes in all BG's. because i happen to like my heroes. Also i got all these Lim heroes i like to show off to
     
  19. Valkyr

    Valkyr The King of Potatoes

    The solution would be to add different game modes / rooms (split ranked, full faction ranked...) but there aren't enough players for that.
     
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  20. jeeperz2

    jeeperz2 I need me some PIE!

    Lmao so you really think the playerbase was big because of the match filter? Pox was simply in its prime regardless of the filter this would probably be the outcome had it stayed.. No the game would probably be dead.
     

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