List of global abilities which should be changed

Agreed things like surge and boost don't bother me, it's things that sit behind a shrine 50 spaces away that bother me.

 

backlash counters unholy tomb and nora mine

 

That's not a basic game mechanic, that is a hard counter, which solves nothing, although yes technically you are right.

I also feel backlash is not as bad as others as a global, since the obvious counter is to not play or use Nora mods. On the other hand, back lash and the spell decay can deal a lot of damage, and it may be something up for debate.

 

With so many abilities/mechanics its guaranteed that one thing will inevitably 'hard counter' another. Lots of abilities/spells can deal lots of damage. Decay is OP

 

Decay only hard counters regeneration.

And that isn't necessarily true . But I don't see your point. Are you saying unholy tomb and Nora mine are well designed?

 

Also battle leader is fine, but medal of valor breaks it

 

It's not fine, but it's getting redesigned and nerfed next patch. I just added more as a thing to be on the list of things that shouldn't be global. Not all of them are op BTW.

 

For reference I've added these

Orb of protection
Uninhibited terrain generation (glacier engine, flooded generator, etc)
Tariff
Mobilisation
Font eruption
Disease amp
Eroding Winds
Relic overload

and removed awakenings since this topic started.

 

Wait, disease amp ended up on the list? Be right back, calling 911 as I am chuckling to death right now.

 

@Sokolov Just to be clear, these abilities/runes may be weak or strong, but I'm arguing the gameplay elements which make them global are not only unnecessary but also dampen the strategic depth of the game. A general criteria for a global should be that the rune can be played against, or the rune is used to soft counter specific bgs.

Surge can be played against because killing a unit anywhere on the map weakens surge. Amplify is much harder to play against, to the point where if you can't reach a specific rune, you will lose the ability to fight on all fronts. Especially since there are spells which scale off the amp.

 

if arctic wail affected ice shard that would be chill.

 

I don't see why global relic damage should exist. If it to counter things like arctic shard, then change arctic shard into an aoe and adjust power / cost accordingly.

 

TLDR: Thinking is too hard, everything is op

 

Thinking is only hard for ******** (SLOW) people.

 

uninstalled the game today. I'm out perm / until next patch. Doubt this game will be changed in a way I want, but I think this thread was a good start in making the game playable, removing hard counters would be the second most important thing. Hopefully someone smart will make a post about why hard counters are horrible for design, but the smart players probably already left.

 

kbye

 

...but but .... I thought we were friends man. Please dont go, what will we do without ur worthless posts and non specific mostly useless rants? who will the troll look up to when they know the biggest whiner in the game has set sail. I hope u find other games more tolerating to ur fantasies and rages. All the best

 

what about grimilics bane?

 

Boost has been nerfed numerous times, from providing a bundle of stats to a sheer 5hp. If you think a weaker version of warbanners should be nerfed, then you've got issues that need resolving.

 

If boost were to be changed, I think giving +5 hp perm as a 1 time thing aoe 8 would be the best solution. War banner is a necessary evil, since low hp units sometimes depend on this, due spell damage too easily being able to clear low hp unit setups (removing strategic diversity). The reason why these globals need changes is because they remove the importance of unit setups, and cause games to be less about positioning, and more about draw winning.