Quitting, Free runes

Discussion in 'Rune Trading' started by Oregreen, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. Etherielin

    Etherielin The Floof Cultist

    Remember Stellar Horizon? Perhaps it breaks after constant redeploys, e.g. on a 3rd, 4th or 5th Crest or something.
     
  2. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    So in that case it was because the spell was incrementing a variable and not resetting it. There's nothing like that happening here that I can see.

    And even if, somehow, for example, that it was increasing the HP loss each time, it wouldn't explain why the Blood Crest isn't dying.
     
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  3. calisk

    calisk I need me some PIE!

    well he was in a training game so he possibly has every single rune in the circus to pull off this trick...

    could be some simultaneous shenanigans, like if you use an aoe to hit the relic and some vamps perhaps their is a way it bypasses the death sequence and ends at -1 hp
     
  4. Bondman007

    Bondman007 I need me some PIE!

    Would masons spires affect this result? What if a spires and vampires died at same time and reduced the crest to -1? Just trying to think what all might have been involved. He was playing DemtheDark, ask him whats in his BG...or just look lol
     
  5. 5amb0

    5amb0 I need me some PIE!

    Post some trades and I'll bid on them
     
  6. Pixyrus

    Pixyrus Forum Royalty

    I'll take any spare KF runes thanks. :)
     
  7. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    It's possible, but unlikely since you'd see the same theoritical effect with anything else that affects HP, such as Boost or Warbanners.
     
  8. calisk

    calisk I need me some PIE!

    Well it's possible their is a particular trigger going on like say the process is calculating death's after an attack and it likely goes in turn order.

    Say it calls the relic first then calls a vamp that then reduces it below 0.
     
  9. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    To explain the code a bit, what you are looking at is what gets put on Champions near the relic.

    So the "BEFORE_DIE" code never triggers on the relic itself, since it's on the champions nearby - and it is within this effect that reduces the HP of the relic.

    And the reducing of the Relic's HP is one of the last things that happen here.
     
  10. calisk

    calisk I need me some PIE!

    Yep the theory I'd want to test at this point is if I was to aoe the relic I such a way that it would leave it at 2hp and I hit a vamp at the same time killing it and the relic was in play before the camp in question would that get past the kill code

    I found a similar bug with lost trails interacting with swap that resulted in the two champs over lapping
     
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  11. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Yea, I am testing that right now.

    That was it. There's something happening here where the "destroy" sequence isn't triggering.

    Given the specific sequence, it is very difficult to cause this to happen on purpose.
     
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  12. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Oh, also, the Blood Crest relic has to be deployed BEFORE the Vampyre. If the Vampyre is deployed first, it doesn't happen.
     
  13. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Additional damage (or Vampyre saving triggers) to the relic DOES kill it, so it's a rare situation that doesn't persist indefinitely.
     
  14. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Actually, if ANYTHING happens at all in the game after it hits Negative HP, the Blood Crest relic will die (and its effects do not trigger).

    Move a champion? Blood Crest dies.

    Deploy a champion? Blood Crest dies.

    Damage a champion? Blood Crest dies - this INCLUDEs killing a vampyre, Blood Crest will die BEFORE saving the Vampyre.
     
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  15. moodudu

    moodudu Member

    Does ending the turn make Blood Crest die?
     
  16. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Yes.
     
  17. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    So there's no way our friendly bug reporter wouldn't have known this is not exploitable and probably why he refused to provide details or show me more of the game. Because ANYTHING happening in the game resolves the issue.

    Still a bug, of course, but as far as I can tell, there's no way for anyone to exploit this or to create invincible champions.
     
  18. Sokolov

    Sokolov The One True Cactuar Octopi

    Note: If you deploy Mason's Spire while Blood Crest is out with the -1 or -2 HP... the Blood Crest dies immediately.

    I really don't see how anyone could be doing this on purpose or exploiting it in any way.
     
  19. davre

    davre The Benevolent Technofascist

    cover up confirmed
     
  20. SPiEkY

    SPiEkY King of Jesters

    Oregreen confirmed Illumilighthouse
     
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