I don't care whether or not they are hot. Doesn't matter to me. Just because I would rather not date a transgender person, doesn't mean that I think they somehow shouldn't do their own thing. Thought the US was about about freedom. I don't see how this hurts you in the slightest. Some women are infertile. Some are *****es. Some get pregnant with another mans baby cause they cheated on you. Lets not pretend that transgenders are somehow ruining a perfect thing. Honestly.
Wow such acceptance for different opinions. You transform this forum into a place where discussions can take place with such responses as "You are out of your mind" , "you are a moron", and other lovely gems of intelligent expression.
Oh yeah that is obvious that deceit is wrong. but a lie like that is a lie. stopping transgenders from using the bathroom of the gender they identify as is counter to their psychological health. making it criminal for people to use a bathroom other than the one for the gender indicated on their birth certificate is heinous.
I never said they shouldn't or couldn't but call it what it is a psychological disorder that will cause confusion in society.
the question there is should we tolerate the intolerant and to what degree and you just cross the line when it comes to burns. like women acting uppity and homosexuals? so confusing. not saying you are against womens rights or gay people but you use the same line of argumentation. adapt or don't but don't expect people to bend to your wish to keep things the same as they are when things are bad for some people.
I understand that you care about this issue but if we just allow some dude to walk up to a woman's bathroom and let him go in, because he says "I am a woman" there are gonna be problems. Pedophiles, rapists, and voyeurs see your charity and acceptance as an opportunity to occupy any womens bathroom whenever they want. You could say they already do this, but broadcasting to the world that you can enter a woman's bathroom as long as you identify with that gender is going to make things worse. The quest for tolerance for confused genders will result in casualties. Unfortunately people who are pushing this ideology will not stop even after the numbers come in of women and children being assaulted in bathrooms.
Im sorry When was the last time you were accepting? Anti transgender, anti immigrant, anti muslim Am I missing something? The difference is that I am anti ignorance.
Gnomes I care about these people and the individuals who will get involved with transgenders under the guise that they are getting in a relationship with a real woman who was raised and taught with the idea that someday she might want to be a wife and mother. It is not only confusing when you find out this person is really a man but then you begin to question their psychological health as well as the fact that they will never be able to have children with you. The situation can be for a woman as well just change the gender. What if your a woman and you get involved with another woman pretending to be a guy and then find out they are a woman and you cannot receive their sperm into your egg? At this point we do not have the technology to alter the genetic chromosomes of a human being and completely transform them into a different sex. When we do I will have a different point of view, but until then this is just bad for society.
I am not anti muslim. I am anti wahabi, anti salafist, anti zionist, anti plutocracy, anti war, anti imperalist, pro palestinian, pro fair market capitalism, anti illegal wefare state immigration, and I believe there should be a separation of business and state. There is no such thing as the word transgender in my opinion. I am also anti communism and anti socialist. Join the california or texas border patrol for a year and then come back and give me your opinion on immigration. You are really good at attacking other people and parroting popular social media points of view, but I rarely hear you talk about anything worth commenting on other than what The young turks are promoting or something you heard on the alphabet news networks of america.
do those even allow Belgians and Dutch people to join? if they are that short on people why don't they hire a few mexicans.
I havent watched the young turks in almost a year, so I wouldnt know. I also dont watch any MSM. Have you personally patrolled the border? Conspiracy theory doesn't exist in my dictionary, but that doesn't make you any less crazy does it?
are you sure, people from certain countries have been banned from entering despite having those and despite living in america in very recent memory.
So again, how does this personally affect you profhulk? Do you take personal offense as to who sits in the stall next to you? Are you also afraid when a gay person is in the same bathroom? It could be any man, so basically there should be a 1 man 1 bathroom policy. Dont forget the religious folks. Theyre all kiddie touchers. Ban them from using public restrooms to be sure. Trans, gay, religious folk, people that walk funny, your uncle who has had too much to drink. Theyre all potential rapists. 1 bathroom per person at the same time is the only reasonable outcome
No bathrooms! if nobody can go to a bathroom nobody can go into a bathroom to ****! we have done it! we have solved **** crime!
Actually come to think of it. By that logic, the idiots should be banned from speaking in public. What if your idiocy infects a little girl? Dont you have a little daughter? Its only fair that from now on you and super are muzzled in public. You could scar sane people for life with your digusting lack of intelligence. This should be priority nr 1 Again I am simply preserving the intelligence of the human race by shielding them from the potential idiocy I know will come out of your mouth. Your rights must be violated simply for the greater good.
They're not looking for special treatment, they're looking for equal treatment. The situation you're proposing forces people who look like they were born as male, or born as female, into bathrooms of the gender opposite to that of their appearance. If you genuinely think this proposed scenario will result in less discrimination and marginalisation than allowing Trans individuals to use the bathroom matching their gender, then I don't really know what to tell you. If it's illegal to have a Trans person in the bathroom that is not that of their chromosomes, then you leave those that have transitioned the two options of either breaking the law every time they wish to use a public restroom, or entering the restroom of the gender they do not identify with (and in a large majority of cases, will not look like they belong in) which in turn will draw a large amount of attention to them for a highly questionable benefit. Even leaving aside the 'should they' thing, how exactly are you going to enforce this? Strip searches at each restroom? Mandatory birth certificate scans before you can access the restroom? What you are proposing is utterly unenforcable. You are free to have your own personal preferences for a partner. Nobody is saying you must date a Trans individual, and if your goal in a relationship is to have kids, then that's also fine! This is a goal for a lot of men and women alike, so you're hardly alone in this. However, and this is a big however, you don't get to generalise your personal choices onto a populace. Not every couple wants kids, and not everyone is capable of having kids. Asexuals, Infertile, and people who just plain don't want kids are also allowed to be in relationships. Children are not necessarily the natural end goal for a relationship, even if it may be the case for yourself. Dating, in and of itself, is complicated, but let's not belittle peoples intelligence by pretending that men will be so bamboozled by the very concept of a Trans. person that they'll spend weeks scratching their heads as they try to come to terms with it. Yes, honesty is a big part of dating, and yes, this will almost always includes being upfront about who you are. If someone isn't upfront about who they are, then the issue isn't that they're trans., it's that they're dishonest. 2.2% of people at the high estimate regret the surgery. Those that don't experience greatly improved quality of life. What you're arguing for is to condemn 97.8% of Trans. people to living a life they hate in exchange for shielding 2.2% of Trans. people from making a choice they regret. Again, this is an issue of honesty, not an issue of being Trans. As Gerben has said, the treatment for Gender Dysphoria is a psych. evaluation, followed by surgery if it's deemed appropriate. If anything, caution is advocated throughout, the idea being to protect the person from making a decision they'd come to regret. This appears to be largely successful screening of those that would not be suited to the procedure, as shown by the very low number who do regret the decision. Again, honesty =/= gender dysphoria. Also, you're denying these people not only the ability to get the help that they do need, but you're also not giving them the legitimacy of acknowledging who they are.
I don't think there's anything wrong with breaking up with someone because they are trans. I'm absolutely fine with them doing w/e they want, but don't think I would ever be comfortable dating one. Kinda @Gnomes I guess.
Nothing wrong with that You are free to choose who you date on every level. Long live western civilisation.
