Forglar Swamp secret agenda

Discussion in 'Forglar Swamp' started by GabrielQ, Jan 31, 2016.

  1. GabrielQ

    GabrielQ I need me some PIE!

    Well, it's known that every faction has a number of topics that matter the most of them and will try and press to get changes that favours them.
    This is a space to secretely discuss what matters the most to FS players and what could be done to achieve it.
    You can think "what does it have of secret?" well, it IS secret, but you don't realize because you are allowed to view the information. Information on who or why has access to the information posted here is, in fact, secret so no questions asked about that.

    Ok, so to list current topics:

    1) Pushing for a change on the collective (getting preordained)
    Motive: We want a new way of developing creative meta battlegroups.
    Actions taken: Thread in General Discussion : http://forums.poxnora.com/index.php?threads/is-it-possible-for-collective-to-gain-preordained.21502/
    Progress: unknown

    2) Pushing for a change on forced evolution ( add cleanse and change aquatic for semiaquatic)
    Motive: we want something to save doomed champions and we are the healing faction.
    Actions taken: posts in cactuar crate, proposed in thread in FS forums.
    Progress: unknown

    3) Pushing for a change on several champions in order to get a hippo/beast submodule start on boghoppers.
    a) Buffing boghopper huntmaster
    a1) Buffing pet: pygmy hippo ability
    b) Buffing turtle rider
    b1) Buffing boghopper rider ability
    c) Buffin mentor
    d) Reworking huntmaster's charm
    e) changing Pygmy hippo stampede
    f) buffing feeding frenzy

    Motive: more variety playing boghoppers, adding meta options.
    Actions: Thread on the FS forums "the Hippo truth" http://forums.poxnora.com/index.php?threads/the-hippo-truth.21584/
    Progress: unknown
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2016
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  2. doubtofbuddha

    doubtofbuddha I need me some PIE!

    Spoilers: this is not actually secret.
     
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  3. Cydna

    Cydna Forum Royalty

    Nerf Collective
     
  4. GabrielQ

    GabrielQ I need me some PIE!

    @Senshu Could you explain to doubt how secret this thread really is?
     
  5. Leadrz

    Leadrz I need me some PIE!

    constrict on slipworm.
     
  6. Sirius

    Sirius I need me some PIE!


    I kinda want it, but I'm kind of afraid of it.


    I'll think about more stuff I wanted, but for now, how about Darkmarsh Sorcerer working as a nice cheapish DEF counter with some anti-spell?

    Made a post about it in another thread some time ago, btu I haven't looked through t to see if I'd change anything from then:

     
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2016
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  7. GabrielQ

    GabrielQ I need me some PIE!

    Added another objective to the agenda
     
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  8. Leadrz

    Leadrz I need me some PIE!

    any chance we could have discussions on tank busters?
    strike or otherwise.
    i find that's something we cannot handle very well.
    (us killing tanks that is)
     
  9. Heart

    Heart I need me some PIE!

    The first rule about the foglar secret agenda is that you don't talk about the foglar secret agenda.
     
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  10. GabrielQ

    GabrielQ I need me some PIE!

    Yep, it's hard sometimes. I run a lot of non targeted damage, plus slam, drown, darkmarsh helm and slick and buzz (metamorphosis) but all of that requires setup and a lot of things like a dreadnought ignore half of them and you cannot chip away either
     
  11. doubtofbuddha

    doubtofbuddha I need me some PIE!

    The key is Murkwater Weakness.
     
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  12. GabrielQ

    GabrielQ I need me some PIE!

    Possible tank softeners:
    A unit with soften (easy, sherlock) candidates?
    A unit with magic bomb, Darkmarsh sorcerer rework? some other option?
    A unit with low damage but with a gap closer (preferably) and pummel + sunder, blackhand or thunderfist slight rework?
    A unit with shred defense, Infiltrator rework? (fs champion change thread)
    Increase target classes on tome of the arcanis (metamorphosis)?
    Ask why people don't run darkmarsh helm?
     
  13. Leadrz

    Leadrz I need me some PIE!

    10/10
     
  14. Ohmin

    Ohmin Forum Royalty

    My secret agenda is that I actually want Turtle Rider to not suck; and am not merely using that rune as an example of how silly I feel the efforts to buff "all" the shoebox runes are..
     
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  15. Ohmin

    Ohmin Forum Royalty

    I don't think you can get all three of those very easily. Cheapish and DEF Counter or Cheapish and anti-spell, or DEF Counter and Anti-Spell.

    Aside from that, I don't think it needs to cover both roles (at least not at the same time). It just needs to do one and not suck at it. Given current sentiments and the recent buffs to Lotus Altar, I think DEF Counter would be the more appropriate, but I'm sure many liked it's older anti-spell flavor, so who knows.
     
  16. Sirius

    Sirius I need me some PIE!


    I think it's 2x auto in FF FS (at least if you like to play more on the agressive side, like me). In splits I often don't have the room, sadly.
     
  17. doubtofbuddha

    doubtofbuddha I need me some PIE!

    I include it as x1 in most of my FS bgs. x2 is rough with all the other stuff you have to counter these days.
     
  18. Senshu

    Senshu Administrator Octopi

    What are you doing? The first rule of keeping a secret is to not talk about the secret.
     
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  19. GabrielQ

    GabrielQ I need me some PIE!

    I know nothing of this secret FS thread you are talking about.

    Hail liquin.
     
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  20. Markoth

    Markoth Lord Inquisitor

    Secrets you say?
     
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