What does sl think of the new bonus as it is now ?

Sl bonus is tough 2, it eats up abilities like stone barrage, ping etc. Sl bonus is basically tough 2 on all sl champs, what do you think that would cost in other factions ?

 

It's not tough 2 because it doesn't reduce damage from all sources. It's better than DEF 2, but not as good as Tough 2.

 

Inconsistencies of pox, so were not tough 2, but were not defense so were in between which i'm now calling " pox ability limbo" or poa for short. A lot of different things I apply to poa.

 

It's not an inconsistency. The SL bonus is different than both Tough 2 and +2 Def. Just like the IS bonus is not the same as Weaken Spells. They are two different functions entirely.

 

Not even gonna get into this with you guys, the sl bonus should work either as tough does or defense does. Were moving away from percentages to make the game easier, well making the sl bonus work as neither +2 defense or as tough 2 makes things overly complicated for no reason when that's why were going away from %.

I don't wanna explain to a new player that the sl bonus is neither tough 2 or +2 defense and doesn't work how either of them do. It's unnecessary bloat that could be avoided.

Champions you control take 2 less damage from champions. This is the sl bonus listed under faction profile

definition of inconsistent- not staying the same throughout

Sure you could argue that tough is inconsistent also but tough has a very straight forward definition in pox

Any time this unit would take damage, it takes 1 less than normal. This ability always works this way, therefore it is consistent.

I don't really understand what the sl bonus doesn't stop that tough 2 stops to be honest, as it seems to function very similar to how tough 2 works. They both stop auras, they both stop ping, they both reduce damage from stone barrage, does the sl bonus stop dots also ? If so then i'd have to say the sl bonus is indeed tough 2 on all sl champs.

 

Yes, please change SL bonus to take -2 from all sources of damage including LoL. SL needs a counter to pesky tomb in fw

 

I guess leave it as is and have a bunch of people confused ? How is it different from tough 2, what does it not stop that tough 2 does ?

 

well each factions bonus is roughly 7-10 nora bonus stats to each faction. excluding FW and FS because FS gets flat nora which is more useful than just added value due to the versatility in it's spending. and the FW bonus' impact largely changing based on how the game goes

 

SL bonus doesn't work against DOTs, terrain effects, spells, relics, or equips.

 

Nothing confusing there. Reflexes works against near-sighted champs, evasive against far-sighted champs. It's all about the optics, not the damage coming in.

 

i guess you can put it on the doctor his upgrades kinda suck anyway.

Also @super71 i feel like you're just dumb and you try to justify it by saying that everyone is confused when it's just you.

No offence bro

 

Super I feel like you're an idiot who should be castrated to prevent possible breeding

No offence bro

 

Maybe this is a bit obvious but with the new sandblast ability and duration or the ability in addition to the base def and teh SL bonus the tankiness has been exaggerated but maybe the problem isnt the SL bonus but sandblast cuz that with drain vitality and stuff that last for 4 - 6 turns add up to an unhappy ending when you take a champ out of the equation with those spells/abilities.

 

Also to your point about sonic bolt... if it has evasive maybe attacking it from range to kill it isnt the smartest thing to do. Thats like saying pincushion takes no damage when I attack it from range and being confused about it xD

Also a spell like planar dissonance literally shits on the rune and this is the way pox is... some Bane Shift just hard counters you. Draksars vs FW, Minotaurs vs planar dissonance , archers vs arrow eaters.

Take away message... Bane Shift is fine as is, and there is a nice icon named uninstall.exe that Ive heard will solve all your problems

 

You're right that sandblast is the problem - it's affect is too powerful.

-3 dmg is huge, bigger than -2 of depression which actually requires your champion to be up close and personal.
6 turns duration is way too long, allows permanent application from just a single sand spray champion
AoE is 1 larger than other bombs for no explicable reason